Then maybe try this Sager laptop i7 gtx 960m 2gb 8gb ddr4 ram and it can be customized.
http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np7256-clevo-n155rd1-p-8671.html
If you don't like it then go with the msi in your link
Hope I helped ya
I'm in the same situation as yours but I did some research and I found some good deals.
HP pavilion 17 inch same specs as the msi and asus in your post but much cheaper (670$) and can be customized to get a better specs...
I've been thinking in getting a new laptop for a good gaming and editing performance,
so I thought asking here is a good idea.
I would like the laptop's specs to be like this:
i7-6700hq
GTX 960m 4gb
8gb ddr4 ram or more
and 1 tb 7200rpm hdd