Anti Virus - Yes or NO??

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I am a new owner of the HP4150 with integrated 802.11b. Should I use an
anti virus or not? If yes, what do you recommend?
 

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Bill wrote:
> Should I use an anti virus or not?

There are exactly two viruses for PPC out there, and none of them has been
seen "in the wild". You'd have to go through some tremendous effort to
manage to get your handheld infected. As of now, anti-virus software for
PocketPCs is a waste of money and a rip-off.
 
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On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 18:06:00 GMT, "René"
<garbagejunkandcrap@hotmail.com> wrote:

>There are exactly two viruses for PPC out there, and none of them has been
>seen "in the wild". You'd have to go through some tremendous effort to
>manage to get your handheld infected. As of now, anti-virus software for
>PocketPCs is a waste of money and a rip-off.
>
It should be pointed out a virus was created recently that proved it
could be done. I don't run an anti virus program on my ppc, I do run
it on the desktop and recognize that a ppc could be used to carry
a virus to my desktop.


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"René" <garbagejunkandcrap@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Bill wrote:
> > Should I use an anti virus or not?
>
> There are exactly two viruses for PPC out there, and none of them has been
> seen "in the wild". You'd have to go through some tremendous effort to
> manage to get your handheld infected. As of now, anti-virus software for
> PocketPCs is a waste of money and a rip-off.
>
>

I hate to take a hard line stance on this - but I totally agree.

If you research the virus's that *do* exist - both were created by an
antivirus company as a proof of concept to show that they can exist. Is
this to instill some sort of mass hysteria so people will buy their
products? Decide for yourself.

If you don't use wireless, then your desktop computer would catch any virus
going in or out of the Pocket PC.

If you use wireless, then there is the possibility that a virus could be
spread, if one ever comes out in the wild.
 
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On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 19:33:13 GMT, "Cleveland Tech"
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>I hate to take a hard line stance on this - but I totally agree.
>
>If you research the virus's that *do* exist - both were created by an
>antivirus company as a proof of concept to show that they can exist. Is
>this to instill some sort of mass hysteria so people will buy their
>products? Decide for yourself.
Bear in mind if you sync with a computer at home and another computer
at your office it could potentially carry a virus from your ofice
computer to your home computer (and vice versa).

Considering some of the morons who i've worked with I would
assume the office computer absolutely has a virus and act accordingly.
It comes down to how much you trust your co-workers.

Personally I don't trust them at all.



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Wrong. Your PPC can transfer infected files meant for Windows. Example:
you connect to a public network with your PPC. A trojan is d/l'd onto your
PPC (your ppc will not be affected by it). You will never know it is there.
Then you either connect to another public network, or you cradle your ppc
and synch. BAM! Your computer is infected with the trojan.

Norton Antivirus for Handhelds will find suspicious activity and stop it.
It will prevent your PPC from becoming a host conduit.

Bobby

"René" <garbagejunkandcrap@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Bill wrote:
>> Should I use an anti virus or not?
>
> There are exactly two viruses for PPC out there, and none of them has been
> seen "in the wild". You'd have to go through some tremendous effort to
> manage to get your handheld infected. As of now, anti-virus software for
> PocketPCs is a waste of money and a rip-off.
>
 
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"René" <garbagejunkandcrap@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Bill wrote:
> > Should I use an anti virus or not?
>
> There are exactly two viruses for PPC out there, and none of them has been
> seen "in the wild". You'd have to go through some tremendous effort to
> manage to get your handheld infected. As of now, anti-virus software for
> PocketPCs is a waste of money and a rip-off.
>
>

Which ones do you have to pay for?

The only one I've seen for the ppc costs nothing. Zero. That certainly isn't
a rip off, or waste of money- but whether it is worthwhile using is a
different matter- but it does do a few other things apart from virus
protection..
http://www.airscanner.com/downloads/av/av.html is the free one.

Which are the ones you have to pay for that you mention?
 
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I'm guessing he is talking about Symantec and McAfee's mobile
virus scanners for Pocket PC's.


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> Which are the ones you have to pay for that you mention?
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AlanS wrote:
> The only one I've seen for the ppc costs nothing. Zero. That certainly
> isn't a rip off, or waste of money- but whether it is worthwhile using
> is a different matter- but it does do a few other things apart from
> virus protection..
> http://www.airscanner.com/downloads/av/av.html is the free one.

Yeah. Oddly enough, those guys are also the ones who created those two
viruses as proof of concept. Preparing a market? Nawwww...

> Which are the ones you have to pay for that you mention?

http://www.symantec.com/sav/handhelds/
 
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I totally agree! I've gotten many Windows viruses on my iPAQ 1945 from
my email that I sync on my Mac and PC (at home). NAV has caught all of
them and cleaned them up when I sync and scan.

Matt Beals

NoNoBadDog! wrote:

> Wrong. Your PPC can transfer infected files meant for Windows. Example:
> you connect to a public network with your PPC. A trojan is d/l'd onto your
> PPC (your ppc will not be affected by it). You will never know it is there.
> Then you either connect to another public network, or you cradle your ppc
> and synch. BAM! Your computer is infected with the trojan.
>
> Norton Antivirus for Handhelds will find suspicious activity and stop it.
> It will prevent your PPC from becoming a host conduit.
>
> Bobby
>
> "René" <garbagejunkandcrap@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:cQ3Yc.14532$Dl3.157@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com...
>
>>Bill wrote:
>>
>>>Should I use an anti virus or not?
>>
>>There are exactly two viruses for PPC out there, and none of them has been
>>seen "in the wild". You'd have to go through some tremendous effort to
>>manage to get your handheld infected. As of now, anti-virus software for
>>PocketPCs is a waste of money and a rip-off.
>>
>
>
>
 
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Nowadays your only concern should be not using your PPC as a conduit for
viruses to the PCs that you work with. If you have PCs at home and at work,
you could be transferring viruses between them, and if you receive mail
wirelessly and afterwards sync attachments to the PC you could be
transferring viruses, even if the PPC doesn't actually get infected.

If you are a careful person on these issues, the AV in the PPC would not be
necessary. But if you think that in any situation one of your computers
could be at risk, do it.

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"Bill" <imperial171@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I am a new owner of the HP4150 with integrated 802.11b. Should I use an
> anti virus or not? If yes, what do you recommend?
>
>
 

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NoNoBadDog! wrote:
> BAM! Your computer is infected with the trojan.

And BAM!, you're a doofus. Aren't you running any kind of anti-virus
software on your desktop PC?
 

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NoNoBadDog! wrote:

> Wrong. Your PPC can transfer infected files meant for Windows. Example:
> you connect to a public network with your PPC. A trojan is d/l'd onto your
> PPC (your ppc will not be affected by it). You will never know it is there.
> Then you either connect to another public network, or you cradle your ppc
> and synch. BAM! Your computer is infected with the trojan.
>
Do a desktop client that checks the PPC via actve sync is needed - not a
resurce hog (and another £50) on the PDA. it's a PDA for goodness sake,
whatever next.

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