Australia Wants to Censor the Internet

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Ronrico

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See what happens when you give up your gun rights? Australia is headed towards a very dark place and there is nothing they can do to stop it.
 

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Unbelievable. The Internet being censored, the only place we can go too to see what we want when we want, that we pay for, is going to be Censored.. well, not ours but Australia's.

If this were to happen here, I would definantly throw my words in and join "Rallies" or w/e the hell. This is too much, TV censored, Radio, Internet..

We know what is bad for us, why do they feel forced to censor stuff for us like they know whats good and bad for us? Too much man, too fucking much.
 

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[citation][nom]Ronrico[/nom]See what happens when you give up your gun rights? Australia is headed towards a very dark place and there is nothing they can do to stop it.[/citation]

gun rights? Listen, what is that going to do? If America did this.. what would you do, grab 100 of your buddies and storm the whitehouse with weapons? Yea, the Army/Police would be on you shooting. Even if nearly all citizens in America have weapons, it don't make a difference. It makes you feel like you're able to take control but you can't. considering theres thousands in the military, and thousands in the police force that would easily stop you. And on top of that, the president can easily be transported away if you tried... This whole "we have guns, so we can overthrow the president" thinking is like a blanket of "control" thrown over your head.. Guns or not, you don't have real control over the top dogs.
 

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Australia is really turning up to be the land of the darkness in recent years - I'm glad my parent's didn't choose to immigrate there.

Seriously though, censoring the internet? You can't censor something like the internet! If the Australian government's spent perhaps one day on the internet they would realize this, but seemingly no.
 

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If I were in the military and ordered to shoot citizens determined to oppose governmental tyranny and oppression I think I'd shoot my commanding officer before laying my life down to protect said tyrants.

Hopefully the men in our military are not military drones, but people.

I'm in favor of blocking child porn and other nasty bits but blocking most anything else would pretty well irk me.
 

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[citation][nom]sacre[/nom]gun rights? Listen, what is that going to do? If America did this.. what would you do, grab 100 of your buddies and storm the whitehouse with weapons? Yea, the Army/Police would be on you shooting. Even if nearly all citizens in America have weapons, it don't make a difference. It makes you feel like you're able to take control but you can't. considering theres thousands in the military, and thousands in the police force that would easily stop you. And on top of that, the president can easily be transported away if you tried... This whole "we have guns, so we can overthrow the president" thinking is like a blanket of "control" thrown over your head.. Guns or not, you don't have real control over the top dogs.[/citation]
I'm sure he was joking, moron. Besides that, Giving up the right to bear arms would only start a massive downhill trend for the removal of every right that we american citizenes value.

Giving up firearms rights to a publicly ran government means that the 'people', and things stop being 'for the people, by the people', and instead staring being 'for the order, by the new world'.
 

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[citation][nom]TheCapulet[/nom]I'm sure he was joking, moron. Besides that, Giving up the right to bear arms would only start a massive downhill trend for the removal of every right that we american citizenes value. Giving up firearms rights to a publicly ran government means that the 'people', and things stop being 'for the people, by the people', and instead staring being 'for the order, by the new world'.[/citation]

No, you're wrong "Moron". There are other Countries with just as many rights, and if not, better living then America atm and they're not allowed to weaponry. You people are taught that without the right to bear arms, the Government is going to control you all and your rights will be gone. Give it a rest, christ. You think that if ANY country, that doesn't have the same exact laws as your country has, is oppressed and controlled and the citizens rights are gone.

Really, get real "moron". I personally would love the right to own my own weapon, but I don't need one because in my entire lifetime I have never been robbed, mugged, or hurt from others. Nor have my friends, family co-workers. Well, maybe it is needed in the US, since the US has one of the highest Crime rates overall.
 

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[citation][nom]dbmbe1969[/nom]To sacre:Would you care to cite the sources for your assertions? Please, enlighten us...[/citation]
 

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[citation][nom]sacre[/nom]No, you're wrong "Moron". There are other Countries with just as many rights, and if not, better living then America atm and they're not allowed to weaponry. You people are taught that without the right to bear arms, the Government is going to control you all and your rights will be gone. Give it a rest, christ. You think that if ANY country, that doesn't have the same exact laws as your country has, is oppressed and controlled and the citizens rights are gone.Really, get real "moron". I personally would love the right to own my own weapon, but I don't need one because in my entire lifetime I have never been robbed, mugged, or hurt from others. Nor have my friends, family co-workers. Well, maybe it is needed in the US, since the US has one of the highest Crime rates overall.[/citation]

Well at least here in the USA we are FREE to choose, unlike you my poor miserable friend.
 

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"McHugh and I were sitting in O'Rourke's one day when a guy we knew came in for a drink. The guy pulled back his coat and we could see he had a handgun in his belt. "Why are you carrying a gun?" McHugh asked. "Because I live in a dangerous neighborhood," the guy said. "It would be safer if you moved," said McHugh."

- From rogerebert.com
 

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[citation][nom]JJBB[/nom]No government should have the power to dictate what is or is not freedom.[/citation]

This is all governments do. It is why they exist. There are no inalienable rights. Rights are given by governments, and can be taken away by governments. If you live in a dictatorship then this is a real problem, but if you live in a democracy, then the rights you gain or lose are determined mainly by public consensus.

It would seem that the Australian people have not been paying close enough attention to the kinds of people they have been voting for.
 

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Well if not senxored then you have to regulate it but dont leave it to the Americans there the ones that got us in this finacial crisis in the first place because they have no regulations on the banks
You have to have rules and regulations otherwise you have everyone jumping around like spoiled little children doing what they want disrupting everybody else
The right to protest dosnt give you the right to destroy graffete other peoples property and thats what happens you need control and regulation but how can you do that without takeing away peoples rights to act like idiots
 

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If this doesn't post correctly I'm not typing it again...

[citation][nom]frozenlead[/nom]Where's Randomizer?[/citation]
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[citation][nom]frozenlead[/nom]And since when is it the governments responsibility to choose the environment children live, work, and play in? Isn't that parents' jobs?[/citation]

Parents are happy to let the government do their job for them. They're too busy with their careers to worry about monitoring their children.

[citation][nom]JJBB[/nom]No government should have the power to dictate what is or is not freedom.[/citation]
As Thunderfox also said, that is precisely what they have always done and will always do. Freedom is a mirage, it doesn't really exist. There is always someone in control.

[citation][nom]eddieroolz[/nom]Seriously though, censoring the internet? You can't censor something like the internet![/citation]
You can try, and if you're a good politician, you can hide the fact that you are computer network-illiterate to most of the population. One problem is the latest filter trial shows that there will be a network slowdown of up to ~78% with the "best" filter. It was 98% in 2005. Given that 22% of the country is on dialup, a 78% slowdown is not viable.

The Australian population has far too long been ignorant of the Internet. There are ads on TV advertising a (quote) "massive" 2GB of monthly bandwidth for a mere $59.95/month including line rental. People think that's perfectly reasonable to pay for. The ISPs prey on people's ignorance of our third-world Internet and reap profits from it.

The government preys on people's trust. They will tell you that this filter is for the children, without telling you any downsides. In a manner of speaking, nobody is "thinking of the children", because their future is being eroded every day.
 

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[citation][nom]hillarymakesmecry[/nom]I'm in favor of blocking child porn and other nasty bits but blocking most anything else would pretty well irk me.[/citation]
What about anti-abortion sites, are they bad for children as well? Why would children even go there? I'm fairly sure parents don't need to worry about their children curiously looking for porn there.

Whirlpool.net.au was going to be fined by the ACMA $11000 PER DAY for having links somewhere on their site to a now-banned anti-abortion site.
 

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[citation][nom]sacre[/nom]No, you're wrong "Moron". There are other Countries with just as many rights, and if not, better living then America atm and they're not allowed to weaponry. You people are taught that without the right to bear arms, the Government is going to control you all and your rights will be gone. Give it a rest, christ. You think that if ANY country, that doesn't have the same exact laws as your country has, is oppressed and controlled and the citizens rights are gone.Really, get real "moron". I personally would love the right to own my own weapon, but I don't need one because in my entire lifetime I have never been robbed, mugged, or hurt from others. Nor have my friends, family co-workers. Well, maybe it is needed in the US, since the US has one of the highest Crime rates overall.[/citation]

Well said sacre.
 
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