British Prime Minister Wants to Ban Secure Messaging

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das_stig

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Just more proof the Cameron is a moron and just doesn't understand that the public don't trust security services to abuse their powers. I bet government, mp's etc comms will still be encrypted to ensure they don't get caught doing anything illegal or underhanded. Vote UKIP last chance for the UK !
 

HEXiT

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while i agree with you stig ukip isnt the answer there even more right wing that the conservatives.
all the parties apart from the liberals(and even thats doubtful) want to do this in some form. as they think its a vote winner. but after seen a few polls taken the opposite is true. we already know the uk gov is spying on us citizens to bypass the anti snooping laws the u.s have and in return the u.s is doing the same for the uk. completely bypassing the needs for warrants.

that being said none of this surveillance has shown any results of note. they didnt stop the boston bombings even though they were forewarned nor did they manage to stop the latest in franc. again they already had actionable intelligence (the guys who committed the crime were actually being actively watched. they were already on no fly lists for instance so were a known threat.

as for the warrants being needed to snoop thats utter b.s. as snowden showed us.
give governments power and sooner or later they abuse it and this kind of power is ripe for abuse.

1 other thing i would like to add is whats the point of banning these few apps? the people claim they need to snoop on would just move to a less obvious, more niche app which they likely havent even heard of. so in reality its a pointless exercise with no real intelligence benefit other than invading joe publics privacy to see if they are swallowing what there being fed which is a massive corporate lie.

call my a cynical but ca(moron) really doesn't like the INTERNET. first he demands the isp's to block sites he and his ilk deem unsuitable. they go for the easy targets first torrents then porn, now instant messaging. next will be vpns and proxys, after that its pretty much open season to block so called radical news outlets like live leak who don't follow the corporate line.

im pretty sure this is deeper than what we are seeing here and the start of something we should all be outraged at. but as long as he claims to be protecting our children most will allow these infringements to go unchecked until its to late and we end up in a police state where your guilty even when you are innocent.
 

Drazek

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haha! Ca(moron)! I love it... i'm going to wear it out now.

Ca(moron) has no idea what he's doing does he? - does he even realise that a back door for the UK = a back door for the rest of the world and a back door for pirates, hackers, terrorists, paedophiles, etc? - would you like it if the pictures of your kids that you had sent your parents were lifted by someone through this 'back door'? no Ca(moron)! no! bad Ca(moron)!

It's people like Ca(moron) who have no idea how the internet or technology works, who constantly seek to shackle the free web that really grind my gears! I'm glad I didn't vote Conservative in the last election, I just wish more people would wake up and realise that all 3 political powerhouses are full of crap. - I also don't think UKIP are the answer to all our problems, despite what Farage says. I'd sooner vote green party, alas they'll never win.. but how interesting would it be if they did? either way, my vote goes to the man who wishes to keep the internet free, open and secure for our families.

p.s. this explains the implications of what cameron is proposing: http://bit.ly/1AauVZp
 

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The problem is that no matter the guarantees we have already seen that authorities will abuse ANY law to suit their own ends; we even had councils in England using new anti terror laws to spy on parents for lying about being in school catchment areas.
 
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