Censored: No Boobies On Indonesian BlackBerrys

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Geef

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Oh well for those backwards third world countries. Too bad their people aren't bright enough to notice they're having something taken away. Even if it is boobies now, just wait, pretty soon it will be something More!
 

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but all of that control is needed, because humans are stupid and can't control themselves. That is why it is not the raper's fault, it's the boobs they saw on TV or BB, or the woman's fault for showing too much skin...

*sighs a sad end of sarcasm*
 

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[citation][nom]alidan[/nom]note to self, never buy anything related to blackberry because i cant support there ideas and roll over attitude.[/citation]

well.. let's see.. RIM could either lose you as a potential customer, or they could lose the entire Indonesian market... hmmm... looks like RIM won this round! ;)

You call it rolling over, and I call it making wise business decisions in a tough situation.
 

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This is complete crap.

First of all, RIM should have never bent over for the country (I believe it was Saudi Arabia) that wanted their data stored in their country (or something to that effect anyways). What were they going to do if they didn't get their way? Not have smartphones, that's what. Google and Apple store their stuff in the United States, so no go there. Windows Mobile? Same thing.
Gives more reason for the citizenry to want change because their government sucks.

You know what? Non-free countries should have to pay for their right to keep their citizens down. RIM shouldn't have to pay one (red) cent.

I blame lazy non-free governments. They should be installing the software to block it, not RIM. Since the infrastructure to block webpages already exists (and so does access to all of the non-free user's data), the debt should be on those countries.
 

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[citation][nom]LuckyDucky7[/nom]This is complete crap.First of all, RIM should have never bent over for the country (I believe it was Saudi Arabia) that wanted their data stored in their country (or something to that effect anyways). What were they going to do if they didn't get their way? Not have smartphones, that's what. Google and Apple store their stuff in the United States, so no go there. Windows Mobile? Same thing.Gives more reason for the citizenry to want change because their government sucks.You know what? Non-free countries should have to pay for their right to keep their citizens down. RIM shouldn't have to pay one (red) cent.I blame lazy non-free governments. They should be installing the software to block it, not RIM. Since the infrastructure to block webpages already exists (and so does access to all of the non-free user's data), the debt should be on those countries.[/citation]

Well the saudi arabia thing wasn't because the data was stored in the US, Canada or wherever.. it's because the government didn't have access to realtime monitoring of the Blackberry services, mainly the BBM, where people can easily coordinate terrorist activities, just like what happened in India, which was the first country to demand from RIM to surrender access to their service...
it's a plausible reason, because at the end of the day, you (as a government) would want to know and keep track of people who spout "terrorist-like" crap in their messages, emails, voice-video calls, whatever... and there you are...

the Indonesian thing is just the country wanting to observe their right to cencorship, and because it's a muslim country, it's against their religious/political law to view pornography.. well not specifically so, but you get the picture...
 
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yes, i'm from indonesia. the goverment in my country really fukin corrupt, n totally craps. i wonder why they don't do more important jobs, not this BB stuff. i think my goverment just want to take benefits from RIM..
 

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You can't force people to not see porn. This is crazy.

BTW, The Saudi Arabia and India thing was, as sparky2010 said, because of the fact that they could not monitor communications over the phones. There was no economics involved.
 
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sparky2010, fyi, indonesia is not muslim country, it only has the majority of moslem, i.e. malaysia maybe is a muslim country
 

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Dear Spammers.. If I give you my home address, would you be kind enough to bring over some of your incredible catalogues in person?
Me and my three "night club bouncer" friends would be more than happy to pay you back for your kindness! :)
 

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censoring content is not the way to teach people whats good and bad for them. they should leave these things to the people themselves as it is a matter of choice and freedom.
but then again, in these third world countries, freedom of speech is not a given thing
 

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censoring things will only make people want them more.
there are other ways to get porn, not just blackberries.
at least porn isn't annoying. but SPAM! now that's a different subject. like what sdgsd883 posted above...
 

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[citation][nom]LuckyDucky7[/nom]This is complete crap.First of all, RIM should have never bent over for the country (I believe it was Saudi Arabia) that wanted their data stored in their country (or something to that effect anyways). What were they going to do if they didn't get their way? Not have smartphones, that's what. Google and Apple store their stuff in the United States, so no go there. Windows Mobile? Same thing.Gives more reason for the citizenry to want change because their government sucks.You know what? Non-free countries should have to pay for their right to keep their citizens down. RIM shouldn't have to pay one (red) cent.I blame lazy non-free governments. They should be installing the software to block it, not RIM. Since the infrastructure to block webpages already exists (and so does access to all of the non-free user's data), the debt should be on those countries.[/citation]

While I agree with most of your points, the US also reserves the right to inquire into communications. The US can monitor the American BB servers just like Saudi Arabia does, all under the veil of anti-terrorism laws and other idiocy.

A US government that truly believed in freedom and liberty should abolish things like the Patriot Act and other absurd measures giving it insight into private data. I don't see how you can oppose things like an ID on one hand, yet allow such acts on the other.
 

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[citation][nom]Geef[/nom]Oh well for those backwards third world countries. Too bad their people aren't bright enough to notice they're having something taken away. Even if it is boobies now, just wait, pretty soon it will be something More![/citation]
The government that's stupid and greedy, not the people. They're just looking for excuses to get a RIM executive come here and negotiate on the bribe. Yes, that lame.

One thing, before you start calling us Indonesians "not bright enough", you might wanna take a look at my profile. I got enough BAs to earn a hammer icon. And that's not a "not-bright-enough-person" kind of achievement.

The best part is, there's a lot more where that kind of people come from. But with a government so corrupted, we're still miles, if not light years, away from being an advanced nation.
 

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I love the BB torch personally and was actually buying on until ATT was hitting me with the down pmt (not mad at them tho). Going to android now due to that but I won't consider a BB device at upgrade time unless they start telling these jerks to get bent !
 

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[citation][nom]damasvara[/nom]The government that's stupid and greedy, not the people. They're just looking for excuses to get a RIM executive come here and negotiate on the bribe. Yes, that lame.One thing, before you start calling us Indonesians "not bright enough", you might wanna take a look at my profile. I got enough BAs to earn a hammer icon. And that's not a "not-bright-enough-person" kind of achievement.The best part is, there's a lot more where that kind of people come from. But with a government so corrupted, we're still miles, if not light years, away from being an advanced nation.[/citation]
Are you comparing your toms profile to real life success?
 

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[citation][nom]d-block[/nom]Are you comparing your toms profile to real life success?[/citation]
Not at all. I was actually highlighting my intelligence level.

REAL Life success is measured by the digits on a bank account. I can say that I'm a cash loaded, yet not too bright, third world country citizen. But that would be a lie now, wouldn't it?

How would you respond if I say that ALL AMERICANS are "not too bright"? As a citizen of such a great country, you should see my point the moment you read them. That is, of course, assuming you're "bright" enough".
 
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