does eu force auto manufacturuer to install / offer tires, radios, ect in their cars from their competitors?
microsoft, apple, linux dist, ect should be able to create the products that they would like and the market should determine who wins,
if a user wants to install mozilla, opera, ect they can, it's easy. people go and install 3rd party software on their machines.
the eu treat people like morons, who can't install what they want on their machines, it's like people are running vanilla windows.
people use ie because it works, if mozilla worked better they would use it, and they do for all the cool addons, more people don't use it because they are happy enough with ie. and google browser just plain sucks, not ready for prime time.
i agree with pocketdrummer, what about the other OS's that have Browsers built in? I think Macs should have to give the users an option to have IE right off the get go if windows will have to do the same.
Microsoft built Windows…. Microsoft includes Internet Explorer as a web browser. I do not see any reason why Microsoft should have to allow a Third party browser into its OS… people can freely download these, they are not restricted.
I don’t see Dell selling their machines with parts from HP… why not?
Windows is Microsoft’s product; they should have the right to choose what they develop! ****Im not a windows fanboy, this is just not right in my opinion, regardless of what companies are involved.
BTW… how come I can’t buy presidents choice @ Safeway?
I actually agree with the EU on this one, but the problem is that all other competing browsers are free and available at a simply download. If there was a market for browsers, then this move would make sense: but there isn't. No one is getting rich off a browser.
Maybe MS would be required to host the option of which browser you want: IE, Mozilla, Chrome, Opera, or Safari during the initial setup phase. Then it'd have to carry the browser on the windows disc though, which means royalties to those companies. Its forcing MS to carry competitor products.
[citation][nom]scryer_360[/nom]I actually agree with the EU on this one, but the problem is that all other competing browsers are free and available at a simply download. If there was a market for browsers, then this move would make sense: but there isn't. No one is getting rich off a browser.Maybe MS would be required to host the option of which browser you want: IE, Mozilla, Chrome, Opera, or Safari during the initial setup phase. Then it'd have to carry the browser on the windows disc though, which means royalties to those companies. Its forcing MS to carry competitor products.[/citation]
why increase cost of windows or reduce microsoft profits to give to 3rd parties that can't create product with enough features to cause people to buy them. sounds like socialism to me. red commie bastards.
Argh, what is going on in the European union. It seems all they have time to do is bully Microsoft. Leopard bundles Safari, why is just because they aren't as successful that they get special privileges? People can learn to install Chrome and Firefox; I'd almost understand it if the EU was forcing Microsoft to make its customers aware of these alternatives, but this is truly ludicrous. People keep saying America is becoming more socialist; heres your proof. i don't like to use IE, I'm a Firefox/Chrome man, but this is completely uncalled for. The browser and Windows media player? MEDIA PLAYER? iTunes is far more popular than Media Player, so why isn't Apple charged for it? It sounds as if something is seriously wrong in the EU.
I hate what MS has become in recent years (read Vista), but I am with them now. I think MS should offer a bare priced bare Windows for Europe, with no minesweeper installed at all, not even notepad. And I'd love to see europeans scratching their heads trying to figure out how to download the competition's minesweeper with no minesweeper installed in the first place. Or they could go for the normal priced normal windows all the rest of the world uses.
I don't see why Microsoft should not be allowed to bundle IE with Windows. I feel for Microsoft here. If i were on their position, i'd be pissed. They are the one who make Windows and they can put anything they want in there. EU has no right telling them what to do for some lousy reason like 'browser monopoly' or anything like that.
The user can install 3rd party browser very easily. Download, run the installer, and that pretty much it. If Microsoft deliberately make life difficult for other browsers (such as not allowing any browser other than IE to be installed in Windows), the EU may have a legitimate beef. But since they don't, well, the EU is better off taking care of more pressing matters than telling Microsoft what to do with it's operating system.
ALL I want to know is can you unistall it. Last thing I would EVER want is googles browser on my pc and I cant ditch it. As for this ITS ALL M$ fault. Get real. If there was a better browser then more people would use it. Fan boys aside Ive used many and most suck.
So, as far as I know, competing browsers are...free. So by not including them in Windows, what exactly is Microsoft preventing them from having, a bigger market share % to show off? Also pretty sure that if people actually want opera, firefox, etc, they have the skills to type said address into IE and download it for themselves. Microsoft does nothing to hinder their installation, wtf is the point of this EU?