FBI May Be Behind Tor Browser Focused Malware

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Oleg Melnikov

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what is wrong with them lol!
they must stop this bull and start doing their job on getting bad guys , and not some internet geeks that try to look up porn on the net...
 

RascallyWeasel

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@ Otacon72

I don't you understand what privacy is. It is not that people are trying to hide things that may be embarassing to them or illegal activities. Privacy is the CHOICE to make information that you may deem personal public. When stuff like this happens it removes the individuals consent/choice in the matter as to wether the information is public or private.
 

jdlobb

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@Oleg

Looking for bad guys is exactly what they're doing. If you were just looking up legal porn it's unlikely you'd have any reason to use something like Tor, and if the FBI or NSA sees you spend all day on Tube8 they're not going to care at all.

The the bad guys, like people who distribute and consume child pornography, are EXACTLY the kind of people who use Tor.
 

jdlobb

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the "Right to Privacy" is an artificial construct imagined up by libertarians, hackers, and tin-foil hats.

The constitution extends you a right to do a number of things, it doesn't exend the right not to have somebody monitoring you while you do it.

If you want to do something illegal that you feel shouldn't be illegal, have the balls to stand up and accept the consiquences and fight for it.
 

Grandmastersexsay

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Jdlobb, math is an artificial construct. So is everything in the Constitution and Bill Of Rights which you have obviously never read.

Try reading this.

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

That clearly states the government needs probable cause and a warrant to monitor someone, because someone being monitored is clearly not secure in their person, house, papers, and effects. It is so clear infact that only a judge or lawyer could think differently.
 

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@Grandmaster

Try reading this.

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
Try understanding it. The right to privacy is not absolute. Read the first few lines of the declaration of independence. If what you do in private adversely affects the rest of us we have the right to know, regardless of how offended you may be. The fact that all the sites went down for "maintenance" leads me to believe that whomever is doing this is working in cooperation with a number of people. Just because they need a warrant doesn't mean that they're going to announce it to the world, especially if they're trying to do some good by catching some of the kiddie porn people.
 

dalethepcman

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Just because "you" didn't receive a warrant, doesn't mean one was not indeed issues for this alleged Irish child pornographer. If the only way to track his internet usage was by hijacking the tor network, then so be it. Just so everyone understands I am not condoning this type of behavior, but I do understand the logic behind it.

P.S. if you think using the internet in any way is untraceable you are sorely mistaken.
 

Grandmastersexsay

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I understand it quite well ddpruit.

What you are ignoring is that the FBI did not, and could not get a warrant to monitor the electronic communications of every tor user indiscriminately infected with this virus.

You need to wake up. Automatically supporting the boys in blue is not the good conservative thing to do. It is the foolish thing to do. If you are a big goverment liberal, I can understand you supporting these draconian law enforcement measures, but then calling you a fool would be redundant.
 

lordjakian

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I think you can break down the article like so.

Put on a scale, with one side being unrestricted and anonymous internet usage, or going after cloud service providers that don't control what data is on their hard drives.

Which one seems more important to you?

 
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