Google: No Content Data Requests From China

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torque79

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I'd like to know what exactly was censored by the US government. Is the information available? Should'nt it be if not? I found a site from google showing statistics on the number of google censorship requests from different countries, but it does not provide details on the items that were removed and why. Should'nt the public know what is being censored, to ensure that we agree with it?
 

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@torque79: Data request is not the same as a censorship request.

Furthermore, the whole point of censorship is to prevent the public from knowing the content of what's being censored. I'm not saying a I agree with censorship (in fact, I strongly oppose it), I'm just saying your question doesn't make sense.
 

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Didn't Google try to get back into China with a new contract that it sent to Beijing about a few months after moving?
 

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While I understand why you pointed out data requests are different because it's mentioned in the last paragraph of the article, I should have made clear that I was not referring to them but to censorship requests in general which made me aware of this practise so I looked it up. I picked on the US government because I feel they should be among those setting a good example for minimal censorship in general.

Of course I understand that full disclosure of the censored information would defeat its purpose, but a list of each domain and a specific reason for each being blocked from search results on google would at least show there's some transparency for those wanting to be informed of what their government is doing with such a sensitive subject. There's nothing preventing these from being lies but otherwise there is no possibility of information being shared with the public.

Maybe I don't understand DNS well enough, but the majority of the internet's DNS and IP allocation happens in the U.S. Instead of approaching google, why not simply revoke/seize/redirect the DNS/IP's of offending sites so one cannot still access them outside google? I would hope all of these sites are removed for good reasons such as illegal forms of pornography, state secret information, etc that would warrant such action. I am a strong skeptic though in general, so I prefer to have some transparency to know that sites are not brought down/restricted for reasons the general population would not agree with.
 

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I see your point. Unfortunately, I don't think we're there already. And if the government were to disclose this information, I would truly be skeptical about the veracity of it. Still, if we don't at least try to fight for the truth, they will surely not hand it down to us.
 

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i have a question, is the cencerd material also include black market types of things?

i mean like the ability to purchase a fully automatic ak47 (it would come disassembled), illesit drugs, and other things? where they want the websites off the internet for good?

because i can see why america would be the one to submit the most that way, we have a fairly competent part of the government that can fins this crap.
 

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Of course the United States is the largest censor requester, you removed one of the worst offenders on earth in terms of non-transparency...
 
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