I don't know what to choose?

[Bestkid]

Hi! I want to buy a cheap laptop and I get these two that are good for their value:

LENOVO Z580 15.6" Laptop
Intel® Core™ i3-2328M processor
Windows® 8
Memory: 4 GB
Hard drive: 750 GB
Graphics Card: Intel HD Graphics 3000 (or 4000, I don't know which)

ASUS X501A-XX280H 15.6" Laptop
Intel® Core™ i3-2330M processor
Windows® 8
Memory: 4 GB
Hard drive: 320 GB
Graphics Card: Intel HD Graphics 3000 (or 4000, I don't know which)

The thing is, I don't know which one to pick... So If you could help me pick one between these laptops it would grateful. I mainly use the laptop for general use and gaming. Also, can you tell me if GTA IV, Saints Rows and Battlefield 3 work on it. I don't want recommendations to other laptops...
So please tell me if I could use this laptop for gaming and if the games will work fine!

 

[jemm]

Funny how the retailers hide the information from the customers.

The LENOVO has Intel HD Graphics 4000, but I can´t find the information for the ASUS Laptop.

 

[Bestkid]

So I should go with the Lenovo? (NOTE: The lenovo has a blue ray disc drive and the asus has no drive).

 

[wanderer11]

Just an FYI, either one suck at gaming. BF3 won't be playable on Intel HD.

 

[MC_K7]

They're pretty much the same in term of specs so I would tend to go with the Asus just because it's better looking. And I think Asus improved their laptop line a lot during the past years. But it's a matter of personal liking more than anything else. I also believe that all laptops equipped with 2nd generation of "i" processors are all using the 4000 graphics chip but I couldn't confirm the information for sure for the Asus.

And wanderer11 is right, with integrated graphics by Intel, forget about gaming in 3D demanding games like the ones you mentioned. It's only good to play small 2D games on the web like Angry Birds or Plants vs. Zombies, etc... But forget about BF3, GTA IV and Saint Rows.