Intel Is Open To Using Windows Phone Later On

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acadia11

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If microsoft would just make a phone that looks half as good as the medfield prototype i'd be all over it. What is so hard about that?
 

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Maybe if phone manufacturers and cellular carries would actually support Windows Phone, it would start gaining market share. Only one of my local Sprint stores even has a Windows Phone on display.....same with Verizon....and both will try excessively hard to talk customer OUT of buying a Windows Phone and opting for an Android based phone instead. Neither actually stocks the Windows Phone models they display. It's hard for Windows Phone to get any real traction when sales people at cellular provider stores are trying to talk people out of the phone and refusing to carry them in case people actually want it.... From what I've been told, the sales people/providers get kick-backs for selling Android phones but get nothing for selling Windows Phones or iPhones.... If this is even remotely true, it's no wonder Android has such large market share....
 

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Linux users [citation][nom]sykozis[/nom]Maybe if phone manufacturers and cellular carries would actually support Windows Phone, it would start gaining market share.[/citation]
Linux users complain about the same thing with PC stores. Funny how that works.

The real problem is that the phones are tied to carriers. It's understandable to have to chose between two technologies, like GSM and CDMA, that are compatible with local networks. But allowing carriers to limit consumer hardware choices allows for large incumbents to dominate the market. Preventing carriers from selling phones would allow for more hardware competition. Consumers could finance purchases through credit cards and other means and not be locked-in to a carrier by early termination fees.

The same thing applies to computers. It's rather difficult to buy a pre-built PC at retail that doesn't include Windows (obviously Apple is even worse) and get support for it. You end up with stupid tech support problems where the manufacturer won't replace a failing fan because the system is running Ubuntu. If you build your own systems then this is not a problem but most people don't build their own.

I've heard that bundling phones and service or PC software and hardware is illegal in some countries. I suspect they have much better hardware choices and probably more competitive service.
 
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Sykozis: Microsoft can go suck a dick, they're finally getting a taste of their own medicine. They pitch a fit anytime a major OEM even considers carrying alternative operating systems like Linux, and they've threatened to sue every handset maker to extort $10/phone from them for every Android. At the same time, Google has begged M$ to sue them over the alleged patent infringement, because 99.9% of Microsoft's "innovation" is absolutely trivial patent trolling.
 

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Windows and Intel are seemingly in the same boat
Do you mean the same bed? Because they've always had that relationship. Anyway, the problem with Windows Phone is that there is no defining reason to get a Windows Phone. Why would I want one? That's the question Microsoft needs to be answering and so far they haven't done a very good job with that. Also, the "Smoked By Windows Phone" thing is nice but at the end of the day most consumers actually care more about functionality than speed. If consumers cared a ton about speed then we would still be using command line interfaces because they use less resources than GUIs.
 
Intel needs to push the industry towards an OS agnostic phone. One that is completely open and unlocked. That way you can partition the memory, install any OS you want, dual even triple boot, overclock and so forth. There is no reason not to let the smartphone be what it actually is a small handheld computer.

Heck even set some standards like ATX. So you can upgrade phones with faster processor, more RAM, and higher res screens.
 

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[citation][nom]velocityg4[/nom]Intel needs to push the industry towards an OS agnostic phone. One that is completely open and unlocked. That way you can partition the memory, install any OS you want, dual even triple boot, overclock and so forth. There is no reason not to let the smartphone be what it actually is a small handheld computer.Heck even set some standards like ATX. So you can upgrade phones with faster processor, more RAM, and higher res screens.[/citation]

buy parts and do it now. If you have the know how you can do this now! The problem is most people can't install their battery.
 
[citation][nom]classzero[/nom]buy parts and do it now. If you have the know how you can do this now! The problem is most people can't install their battery.[/citation]

You can't just buy a standardized smartphone motherboard and put it in any smartphone you wish yet. Nor just simply swap CPU's, add RAM, &c.
 

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I've had phone with Win Mobile, and it was just unstable and unreliable. Just like a PC with Windows you have to reboot it due to memory leak etc..

I just wish HP did not scrap their Palm Phones. WebOS is by far the best Phone OS ive used by now. But the lack of apps, make it easy to jump to Android.

But i do not think we will ever see windows on Phone gaining traction. But in my opinion that's a good thing
 

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I would rather have a windows phone then all these linux crap clone phones. reason being? the file system and layout of the OS is way too complicated on linux phones. Every tried to find a missing file? good luck hahahahahaha. NOw windows devices file system layout is simple and sweet.


This is a real problem, and it pisses me off. At least there is some file managers out there that tries to block the confusing file system so the user doesn't see it, but in some cases the other files needed to be seen for tweaks.
 

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The folder structure under linux is very simple :) Actually simpler and more logical than windows once you get use to it. It's not rocket Science.

Everything is under the root directory, System directories are directly under root usually. Userfiles are under Home\username

And just as in windows all File managers have the option for "show hidden files"

Example:
.root/home/username/Documents/
.root/home/username/Desktop/
.root/home/username/Music/
.root/home/username/Videos/
.root/home/username/Downloads/

Then similar to windows "application data"

Example:
.root/home/username/.filezilla/
.root/home/username/.thunderbird/
.root/home/username/.whatever_program/

And so on.

One of the reasons for its similarity is that both Linux and Windows are based on Unix.

From a PCM perspective almost everythingh is open source and free, and can easily be installed using packet managers that does the installation for you. Not to mention all the various security issues on windows that is almost non excistant under Linux. Viruses and other malware. Not much need for Antivirus and AntiSpyware for example.

Sure windows definitely have its uses (with gaming you pretty much do not have a choice), But for a Phone windows is quite useless. (my opinion/experience anyway)

Sorry but saying you cant find files is just a bad argument.
 
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