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S888Wheel wrote:
>>Cable Construction?
>>From: Jim jim1128@comcast.net
>>Date: 12/28/2004 7:35 AM Pacific Standard Time
>>Message-id: <cqrugc02u0m@news3.newsguy.com>
>>
>>Bob wrote:
>>
>>>Okay, I've read many of the comments about whether or not there are
>>>differences in the "sound" of cables. What I want to know is has
>>>anyone looked into many of the claims of how these cables are
>>>constructed? Many claim complex windings, extreme levels of purity (be
>>>they gold, silver, copper, etc.), and even to be cryogenically treated!
>>>Some of this stuff would seem to be beyond the capablilities of these
>>>companies, many of which are quite small. Has anyone actually cut some
>>>of these cables apart to see if they are actually made the way they are
>>>claimed to be?
>>
>>From the I-just-made-this-up book "Zen, and the art of hi-fi" --
>>"Why do you question the world around you? Go, listen, if you prefer the
>>sound of one component over the other, it does not matter WHY."
>>
>>If you want to run through double-blind tests to compare dozens of
>>cables with a group of hundreds of subjective listeners and conclusions
>>drawn from a statistical analysis of their ratings, I would love to read
>>the results; who gives a rip what the internal construction of a cable
>>is at that point?
>>
>>If some guy buys audio gear just to show to his friends (and a lot of
>>high-end types do), why not sell him some cryogenically treated,
>>ultra-pure, quantum-matched cables that were hand woven by a monk who
>>has been living in a hut for his entire life and only makes two sets a year?
>
> If a cable manufacturer is making cables as they say they are making them and
> the difference is an honest placebo effect then we can say that the
> manufacturer has duped himself. There is no law against this. OTOH if the
> manufacturer is simply charging extraordinary amounts of money for cheap
> product that is falsely advertised as something special and expensive to make
> then that manufacturer is committing fraud.It matters a lot. Even if the cables
> do sound different it matters.
"Sound different" doesn't mean "sound better."
Buying cables for that kind of money without auditioning them, and
hopefully many others, is a foolish decision. It's still my money, and I
will part with it (or not) in a way that trades for what I percieve to
be par value.
For example, I borrowed a Synergistic Research Reference AC Master
Coupler from the local high-end shop. I took it home, hooked it up, and
found that the soundstage was somewhat more forward than without. In my
system, that was a good thing. Next I took the cable back to the shop
because for $500, the tweak didn't buy me an improvement that matched
the cost.
Bottom line with me is, just because some entity says "this is truth" I
still do my own research before plunking down the cash. The test
criteria is "does this sound better than that" and I wouldn't have it
any other way.
(I've been known to spend money on questionable stuff, like bi-wiring my
main speakers. I think that cost me an extra $50 over "normal" wires.
For my money I got a maybe/maybe-not improvement in sound, and some cool
looking thick cables that go to the speakers. Pure vanity.)