Is EOS 300D good buy?

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I am planning to buy that SLR with kit lens so is that good buy? Right now
have Powershot A70 and i am little bit more into photography but i don't
want to spend so much money. Is that lens (18-55) usable for someone like me
(amateur) but still want to get better pictures.(especially lower light -
concerts and so on)? Sorry for my English, i'm not from USA. I'm from
Croatia, Dubrovnik.
 

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"Dino" <dino_avdic@du.htnet.hr> wrote in message
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> I am planning to buy that SLR with kit lens so is that good buy? Right now
> have Powershot A70 and i am little bit more into photography but i don't
> want to spend so much money. Is that lens (18-55) usable for someone like
me
> (amateur) but still want to get better pictures.(especially lower light -
> concerts and so on)? Sorry for my English, i'm not from USA. I'm from
> Croatia, Dubrovnik.
>
> Or is it better to buy Panasonic FZ20 (36-432) or Minolta A200 to have one
good all-round package?
 
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Dino wrote:
> "Dino" <dino_avdic@du.htnet.hr> wrote in message
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>> I am planning to buy that SLR with kit lens so is that good buy?
>> Right now have Powershot A70 and i am little bit more into
>> photography but i don't want to spend so much money. Is that lens
>> (18-55) usable for someone like me (amateur) but still want to get
>> better pictures.(especially lower light - concerts and so on)? Sorry
>> for my English, i'm not from USA. I'm from Croatia, Dubrovnik.
>>
>> Or is it better to buy Panasonic FZ20 (36-432) or Minolta A200 to
>> have one good all-round package?

The snag with the "kit" lens in the very small aperture. Ideally, you
would want a DSLR so that you can get a high sensitivity (high ISO), plus
a lens with a wide aperture (small f/number e.g. f/2.8) to capture the
most light. It is an expensive and heavy combination.

David
 

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David J Taylor wrote:
> Dino wrote:
>
>>"Dino" <dino_avdic@du.htnet.hr> wrote in message
>>news:d1mjcg$vt$1@ls219.htnet.hr...
>>
>>>I am planning to buy that SLR with kit lens so is that good buy?
>>>Right now have Powershot A70 and i am little bit more into
>>>photography but i don't want to spend so much money. Is that lens
>>>(18-55) usable for someone like me (amateur) but still want to get
>>>better pictures.(especially lower light - concerts and so on)? Sorry
>>>for my English, i'm not from USA. I'm from Croatia, Dubrovnik.
>>>
>>>Or is it better to buy Panasonic FZ20 (36-432) or Minolta A200 to
>>>have one good all-round package?
>
>
> The snag with the "kit" lens in the very small aperture. Ideally, you
> would want a DSLR so that you can get a high sensitivity (high ISO), plus
> a lens with a wide aperture (small f/number e.g. f/2.8) to capture the
> most light. It is an expensive and heavy combination.
>
> David

Besides f number, you also need to consider that the quality of ISO 400
in FZ20 is VERY bad. Check dpreview.com for the full size samples.

The 300D is a good buy and you'd consider it as the vast improvement
over A70. However, it's not adequate for low light photo shooting. With
SLR, you can buy the appropriate lens for the job, such as 100/2.8
macro, 75-300/IS etc.
 

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"David J Taylor" <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.not-this-bit.nor-this-part.uk>
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> Dino wrote:
> > "Dino" <dino_avdic@du.htnet.hr> wrote in message
> > news:d1mjcg$vt$1@ls219.htnet.hr...
> >> I am planning to buy that SLR with kit lens so is that good buy?
> >> Right now have Powershot A70 and i am little bit more into
> >> photography but i don't want to spend so much money. Is that lens
> >> (18-55) usable for someone like me (amateur) but still want to get
> >> better pictures.(especially lower light - concerts and so on)? Sorry
> >> for my English, i'm not from USA. I'm from Croatia, Dubrovnik.
> >>
> >> Or is it better to buy Panasonic FZ20 (36-432) or Minolta A200 to
> >> have one good all-round package?
>
> The snag with the "kit" lens in the very small aperture. Ideally, you
> would want a DSLR so that you can get a high sensitivity (high ISO), plus
> a lens with a wide aperture (small f/number e.g. f/2.8) to capture the
> most light. It is an expensive and heavy combination.
>
> David
>
> So, that's not ideal combination for amateur? I mean 300D + kit lens?? I
suppose it's much better than A70 .
 
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Dino wrote:
> "David J Taylor"
> <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.not-this-bit.nor-this-part.uk> wrote in
> message news:aOA%d.2648$Ab.1389@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> Dino wrote:
>>> "Dino" <dino_avdic@du.htnet.hr> wrote in message
>>> news:d1mjcg$vt$1@ls219.htnet.hr...
>>>> I am planning to buy that SLR with kit lens so is that good buy?
>>>> Right now have Powershot A70 and i am little bit more into
>>>> photography but i don't want to spend so much money. Is that lens
>>>> (18-55) usable for someone like me (amateur) but still want to get
>>>> better pictures.(especially lower light - concerts and so on)?
>>>> Sorry for my English, i'm not from USA. I'm from Croatia,
>>>> Dubrovnik.
>>>>
>>>> Or is it better to buy Panasonic FZ20 (36-432) or Minolta A200 to
>>>> have one good all-round package?
>>
>> The snag with the "kit" lens in the very small aperture. Ideally,
>> you would want a DSLR so that you can get a high sensitivity (high
>> ISO), plus a lens with a wide aperture (small f/number e.g. f/2.8)
>> to capture the most light. It is an expensive and heavy combination.
>>
>> David
>>
>> So, that's not ideal combination for amateur? I mean 300D + kit
>> lens?? I
> suppose it's much better than A70 .

It depends! If you are trying to smuggle a camera into a concert
undetected the A70 is smaller, and might not look like a "professional"
camera if it were discovered. It would not take such good photos, though.
What is it exactly that is most important to you.

Leo has recommended that an f/2.8 lens with the 300D is desirable, if good
low-light performance is essential.

David
 

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"David J Taylor" <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.not-this-bit.nor-this-part.uk>
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> Dino wrote:
> > "David J Taylor"
> > <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.not-this-bit.nor-this-part.uk> wrote in
> > message news:aOA%d.2648$Ab.1389@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> >> Dino wrote:
> >>> "Dino" <dino_avdic@du.htnet.hr> wrote in message
> >>> news:d1mjcg$vt$1@ls219.htnet.hr...
> >>>> I am planning to buy that SLR with kit lens so is that good buy?
> >>>> Right now have Powershot A70 and i am little bit more into
> >>>> photography but i don't want to spend so much money. Is that lens
> >>>> (18-55) usable for someone like me (amateur) but still want to get
> >>>> better pictures.(especially lower light - concerts and so on)?
> >>>> Sorry for my English, i'm not from USA. I'm from Croatia,
> >>>> Dubrovnik.
> >>>>
> >>>> Or is it better to buy Panasonic FZ20 (36-432) or Minolta A200 to
> >>>> have one good all-round package?
> >>
> >> The snag with the "kit" lens in the very small aperture. Ideally,
> >> you would want a DSLR so that you can get a high sensitivity (high
> >> ISO), plus a lens with a wide aperture (small f/number e.g. f/2.8)
> >> to capture the most light. It is an expensive and heavy combination.
> >>
> >> David
> >>
> >> So, that's not ideal combination for amateur? I mean 300D + kit
> >> lens?? I
> > suppose it's much better than A70 .
>
> It depends! If you are trying to smuggle a camera into a concert
> undetected the A70 is smaller, and might not look like a "professional"
> camera if it were discovered. It would not take such good photos, though.
> What is it exactly that is most important to you.
>
> Leo has recommended that an f/2.8 lens with the 300D is desirable, if good
> low-light performance is essential.
>
> David
>
>
I'll use it for time to time at concerts. Mainly for nature, people etc.
Sometimes sports, maybe. Money is really big problem so i am buying kit lens
and i am just wondering is that good for every day use (that means sometimes
concerts). I suppose that even kit lens will make much better pictures at
concerts then A70 (i'll try to get inside with 300D). At least little noise
at ISO 400 and 800. From my hand, for the beggining.
 
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On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:19:12 +0100, Dino <dino_avdic@du.htnet.hr> wrote:
>
> I'll use it for time to time at concerts. Mainly for nature, people etc.
> Sometimes sports, maybe. Money is really big problem so i am buying kit lens
> and i am just wondering is that good for every day use (that means sometimes
> concerts).

The kit lens is fine. Yes, it's not the fastest lens in the world,
but you can crank up the ISO to compensate. And you can always buy
a faster lens later.

The 50mm f/1.8 lens is only $70-$80. If that focal length suits
you, it's a good way to get a very fast lens for cheap.

> I suppose that even kit lens will make much better pictures at
> concerts then A70 (i'll try to get inside with 300D).

Yes, I think that's likely.

--
Ben Rosengart (212) 741-4400 x215
Sometimes it only makes sense to focus our attention on those
questions that are equal parts trivial and intriguing.
--Josh Micah Marshall
 
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"Ben Rosengart" <br+rpdss@panix.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:19:12 +0100, Dino <dino_avdic@du.htnet.hr> wrote:
> >
> > I'll use it for time to time at concerts. Mainly for nature, people etc.
> > Sometimes sports, maybe. Money is really big problem so i am buying kit
lens
> > and i am just wondering is that good for every day use (that means
sometimes
> > concerts).
>
> The kit lens is fine. Yes, it's not the fastest lens in the world,
> but you can crank up the ISO to compensate. And you can always buy
> a faster lens later.
>
> The 50mm f/1.8 lens is only $70-$80. If that focal length suits
> you, it's a good way to get a very fast lens for cheap.
>

Yep, I use the cheap 50mm f/1.8 all the time. It's Canon's lightest lens so
it's great for hiking and it's fairly small so it will help with sneaking
the camera in to concerts.

Greg
 
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"Dino" <dino_avdic@du.htnet.hr> wrote in message
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>I am planning to buy that SLR with kit lens so is that good buy? Right now
> have Powershot A70 and i am little bit more into photography but i don't
> want to spend so much money. Is that lens (18-55) usable for someone like
> me
> (amateur) but still want to get better pictures.(especially lower light -
> concerts and so on)? Sorry for my English, i'm not from USA. I'm from
> Croatia, Dubrovnik.


Good choice. You will not be sorry. Great high ISO for your concerts.
 
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"leo" <someone@somewhere.net> wrote in message
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> David J Taylor wrote:
>> Dino wrote:
>>
>>>"Dino" <dino_avdic@du.htnet.hr> wrote in message
>>>news:d1mjcg$vt$1@ls219.htnet.hr...
>>>
>>>>I am planning to buy that SLR with kit lens so is that good buy?
>>>>Right now have Powershot A70 and i am little bit more into
>>>>photography but i don't want to spend so much money. Is that lens
>>>>(18-55) usable for someone like me (amateur) but still want to get
>>>>better pictures.(especially lower light - concerts and so on)? Sorry
>>>>for my English, i'm not from USA. I'm from Croatia, Dubrovnik.
>>>>
>>>>Or is it better to buy Panasonic FZ20 (36-432) or Minolta A200 to
>>>>have one good all-round package?
>>
>>
>> The snag with the "kit" lens in the very small aperture. Ideally, you
>> would want a DSLR so that you can get a high sensitivity (high ISO), plus
>> a lens with a wide aperture (small f/number e.g. f/2.8) to capture the
>> most light. It is an expensive and heavy combination.
>>
>> David
>
> Besides f number, you also need to consider that the quality of ISO 400 in
> FZ20 is VERY bad. Check dpreview.com for the full size samples.
>
> The 300D is a good buy and you'd consider it as the vast improvement over
> A70. However, it's not adequate for low light photo shooting. With SLR,
> you can buy the appropriate lens for the job, such as 100/2.8 macro,
> 75-300/IS etc.

Not the 75-300, please! What is the low-light problem? You mean AF with
low light? Never had a problem on the 300D and the kit lens. Use the center
AF point.
 

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"Dave R knows who" <kilbyfan@spamnotAOL.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Dino" <dino_avdic@du.htnet.hr> wrote in message
> news:d1mjcg$vt$1@ls219.htnet.hr...
> >I am planning to buy that SLR with kit lens so is that good buy? Right
now
> > have Powershot A70 and i am little bit more into photography but i don't
> > want to spend so much money. Is that lens (18-55) usable for someone
like
> > me
> > (amateur) but still want to get better pictures.(especially lower
light -
> > concerts and so on)? Sorry for my English, i'm not from USA. I'm from
> > Croatia, Dubrovnik.
>
>
> Good choice. You will not be sorry. Great high ISO for your concerts.
>
> Thanks.
 

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