ISPs to Start Throttling Pirates, More by July 12

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[citation][nom]the_krasno[/nom]What if they have bought the movie or game they are torrenting? Doing so is allowed under the revised Millenium Act.[/citation]

Might want to re-look at that...downloading copyrighted software from anywhere other than an authorized location is not legal. Whether you paid for the software/music/or any other digitally copyrighted wares makes no difference.
 
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How would they know if it was an illegal file? Torrents are legal and can be used to download podcast etc. legally. I have a feeling this is going to hurt legit consumers. Easy way to make people pay more for less bandwidth.

If they are somehow magically able to truly tell whether something is legit or not then this is fine, but the only way I can think of would be an invasion of privacy by monitoring all you network traffic. :p
 

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[citation][nom]Johnpombrio[/nom]HINT: Use PeerBlock...[/citation]
Unfortunately, ISPs won't need to connect to your computer to determine if you are downloading anything.

As I see it, all they will need to do is monitor traffic through their system noting high-traffic flows, and then use a packet monitor type of program to detect traffic to or from known "pirate" IP addresses. Any such packets found will contain the IP address of the downloading computer.

A more effective block would be something that goes through a VPN so that your real IP would be cloaked, and perhaps there are skillful downloaders out there who would be able to modify their IP address in those same packets so that they could not be traced - if something like that is even possible.
 

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[citation][nom]xLockeX[/nom]If they are somehow magically able to truly tell whether something is legit or not then this is fine, but the only way I can think of would be an invasion of privacy by monitoring all you network traffic.[/citation]

Actually it's your ISP's network traffic. They can monitor anything you do legally. After all, you are using THEIR service. Hence the reason they are doing this at the ISP level.
 

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comcast in northern california has implemented "beginning measures" started jan 31st of 2012. beginning meaning that if anyone exceeds 350gb within 30 day period , a letter will be sent to the specific ip user; warning them that any further grants termination with comcast.

in reality, a yellow flag is lit on the system side where all 350gb users will be under scrutiny and from there on will be scanned for illegal piracy and etc. just a heads up and always remain anonymous! ^_^
 

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[citation][nom]wiyosaya[/nom]Unfortunately, ISPs won't need to connect to your computer to determine if you are downloading anything.As I see it, all they will need to do is monitor traffic through their system noting high-traffic flows, and then use a packet monitor type of program to detect traffic to or from known "pirate" IP addresses. Any such packets found will contain the IP address of the downloading computer.A more effective block would be something that goes through a VPN so that your real IP would be cloaked, and perhaps there are skillful downloaders out there who would be able to modify their IP address in those same packets so that they could not be traced - if something like that is even possible.[/citation]

It doesn't matter what "block" methods you use...the traffic is still routed through your ISP's system, it goes to your modem regardless of what masks you use.
 

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[citation][nom]carnage9270[/nom]It doesn't matter what "block" methods you use...the traffic is still routed through your ISP's system, it goes to your modem regardless of what masks you use.[/citation]

But ISP cannot snoop packets through VPN because they are encrypted. On that note, all SSH traffic cannot be monitored, all they know is that its encrypted.
 

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It doesn't matter what "block" methods you use...the traffic is still routed through your ISP's system, it goes to your modem regardless of what masks you use.
Encrypted traffic is not readable by the ISP, all you need is a tunnel and a proxy. It's not hard to work around any security measures they come up with.
 

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[citation][nom]skittle[/nom]But ISP cannot snoop packets through VPN because they are encrypted. On that note, all SSH traffic cannot be monitored, all they know is that its encrypted.[/citation]

That's assuming the ISP needs to sniff packets. They know the location of the file you downloaded (unless it's held on a private network) and where it was downloaded to (cable modem etc.) it's all they need if they suspect a client of downloading illegal content.
 

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[citation][nom]carnage9270[/nom]That's assuming the ISP needs to sniff packets. They know the location of the file you downloaded (unless it's held on a private network) and where it was downloaded to (cable modem etc.) it's all they need if they suspect a client of downloading illegal content.[/citation]

no... all that is seen is random encrypted bits passing from one person to another. cannot tell if its a encrypted video chat or latest tv show. Or else what would be the point of encryption :|
 

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[citation][nom]skittle[/nom]no... all that is seen is random encrypted bits passing from one person to another. cannot tell if its a encrypted video chat or latest tv show. Or else what would be the point of encryption :|[/citation]

The key here is "from one person to another" or in ISP's terms, "one location to another". They aren't going to be sniffing packets of all traffic on their network as that would be way too intensive to their systems, they will be looking for key locations or addresses on the world wide web.
 
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