It's 2005. Are 5th gen OTA tuners available yet?

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Jeff Rife wrote:
> Bob Miller (robmx@earthlink.net) wrote in alt.tv.tech.hdtv:
>
>>>A 5th gneration ATSC receiver may be "4-1/2 years late", but it's *still*
>>>here earlier than $100 HDTV-capable COFDM receivers. It's also here before
>>>SD COFDM receivers that don't lose the signal when the washing machine turns
>>>on.
>>>
>>
>>How convenient. There is no market for COFDM HD receivers in the US so
>>there are no HD COFDM $100 receivers.
>
>
> Oh, so now Australia has no HDTV? I think *they* would like US$100
> HDTV-capable COFDM receivers, instead of having to pay the US$471.92
> they currently run.

Australia is a very small market with only around 4 million households.
There are no economies of scale that would cause prices to reach what
they are in the UK or what they would be in the US or China.
OZ receiver list
http://www.dba.org.au/index.asp?sectionID=18

Notice that the price of an SD COFDM receiver in OZ is $199 in Australia
dollars or $154 in US. In the UK you can buy an SD COFDM receiver for
$37 on sale.

The difference is mainly the market size. What is incredible is the wide
range of COFDM receivers that are available for such an incredibly small
market. And what is also enlightening is that they are buying these
receivers at 7 times the rate we are buying 8-VSB receivers.

Bob Miller


>
> Funny that you can buy an ATSC receiver (every one of which is HDTV-capable)
> for less than US$200, even though sales are so dismal (according to Bob)
> that volume prices have yet to kick in.
>

 

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Bob Miller (robmx@earthlink.net) wrote in alt.tv.tech.hdtv:
> > Oh, so now Australia has no HDTV? I think *they* would like US$100
> > HDTV-capable COFDM receivers, instead of having to pay the US$471.92
> > they currently run.
>
> Australia is a very small market with only around 4 million households.
> There are no economies of scale

Guess what...less than 5 million households have ATSC receivers in the US,
and prices for ATSC HDTV receivers are *already* half that of Australian
COFDM HDTV receivers.

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| for peace.... It failed."
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Jeff Rife wrote:
> Bob Miller (robmx@earthlink.net) wrote in alt.tv.tech.hdtv:
>
>>>Oh, so now Australia has no HDTV? I think *they* would like US$100
>>>HDTV-capable COFDM receivers, instead of having to pay the US$471.92
>>>they currently run.
>>
>>Australia is a very small market with only around 4 million households.
>>There are no economies of scale
>
>
> Guess what...less than 5 million households have ATSC receivers in the US,
> and prices for ATSC HDTV receivers are *already* half that of Australian
> COFDM HDTV receivers.
>

Once again, bob will ignore facts. You can bet on it.

--
Matthew

I'm a contractor. If you want an opinion, I'll sell you one.
Which one do you want?

 

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>COFDM does not lose signal when you turn on a washing machine.

Funny BOB, neither do ANY of my 4 HD receivers, receiving 8VSB, lose their
signal when our washing machine is running. WHEN will you stop your chronic
lying BOB? Are you not bright enough to see you have utterly ZERO credibility
here? Somehow in your twisted mind you seem to think that coming up with a new
lie or distortion every day will enhance your credibility. Frankly BOB, you
insult the intelligence of each and every reader of this ng. Your desperation
is very clear to all.

 

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>Funny that you can buy an ATSC receiver (every one of which is HDTV-capable)
>for less than US$200, even though sales are so dismal (according to Bob)
>that volume prices have yet to kick in.

Jeff, you're going to give this man a headache with facts. BOB does not like
facts and simply discards them as if they didn't exist.

 

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>Australia is a very small market with only around 4 million households.
>There are no economies of scale that would cause prices to reach what
>they are in the UK or what they would be in the US or China.

So again BOB compares apples to oranges. His excuse for expensive COFDM
receivers where there IS HD, is 'economy of scale'. He then goes on to compare
prices in the U.K., where numbers are not a problem and where almost nobody has
an HD receiver. What a wonderful world BOB lives in. You can come up with an
excuse, even though it's absurd, for almost any scenerio. Yes indeedy Booby,
you are our resident Snake Oil Salesman!

>And what is also enlightening is that they are buying these
>receivers at 7 times the rate we are buying 8-VSB receivers.
>

Hey Mr. Distorter of the Truth, do your numbers take into account EACH AND
EVERY HD SATELLITE RECEIVER SOLD? No? I didn't think so.