Local HD thru DirecTV

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When will local HD channels be available through DirecTV instead of OTA with
separate antenna?

Dave G

 

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* Dave G Wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:

> When will local HD channels be available through DirecTV instead
> of OTA with separate antenna?
>
> Dave G
>
>
>

Some already are. I believe it depends on your location.


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SINNER stated (in reply to a satellite delivered HD locals question):
----"Some already are.I believe it depends on your location."----


Reply:
How can this be? These signals (most of them anyway) are MPEG-4 Ka-Band
delivered signals are they not? I am not aware of any receivers yet that
are available for sale that can receive the Spaceway 1 satellite feeds.I
also thought that any NDS boxes would not be out until October at the
earliest.
Not only that,but I thought the Spaceway 1 satellite was still going
through in-orbit testing??
If there are HD delivered locals they would have to be in MPEG-2 format
on current sats and there would not be very many of them due to
bandwidth constraints.Do you have a link to this news?

 

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* SAC 441 Wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:

> SINNER stated (in reply to a satellite delivered HD locals
> question): ----"Some already are.I believe it depends on your
> location."----
>
>
> Reply:
> How can this be? These signals (most of them anyway) are MPEG-4
> Ka-Band delivered signals are they not? I am not aware of any
> receivers yet that are available for sale that can receive the
> Spaceway 1 satellite feeds.I also thought that any NDS boxes would
> not be out until October at the earliest.
> Not only that,but I thought the Spaceway 1 satellite was still
> going
> through in-orbit testing??
> If there are HD delivered locals they would have to be in MPEG-2
> format
> on current sats and there would not be very many of them due to
> bandwidth constraints.Do you have a link to this news?
>
>

All I can tell you is that occasionaly I see:

HD brought to you by DirecTV at the start and there are hidef
recievers for DTV that recieve locals.

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Yes,there have been high definition receivers for a number of years from
DirecTV,but these are the STANDARD upper Ku-Band MPEG-2 transmission
standard that is CURRENTLY in use.As far as I know NOW,there is no MASS
delivered HD locals via satellite YET.
When DirecTV is about to do this,I am sure there will be a lot of
fanfare and promo blitzes to announce the next crop of high tech
receivers and availability.
In MY estimation,I do not think this is going to happen until NDS has
the new receivers field tested,and until at LEAST DirecTV 8 is
launched.It is currently on hold for launch until late July according to
Skyreport.com.

 

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In article <Xns9670996EF9F1ALouiscypherhellorg@140.99.99.130>,
SINNER <arcade.master@googlemail.net> wrote:

> * SAC 441 Wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
>
> > SINNER stated (in reply to a satellite delivered HD locals
> > question): ----"Some already are.I believe it depends on your
> > location."----
> >
> >
> > Reply:
> > How can this be? These signals (most of them anyway) are MPEG-4
> > Ka-Band delivered signals are they not? I am not aware of any
>
> All I can tell you is that occasionaly I see:
>
> HD brought to you by DirecTV at the start and there are hidef
> recievers for DTV that recieve locals.

In certain locations you can get the network feeds from the DirecTV
sats. You either have to be somewhere where OTA HD is not available at
all, or you have to get a dispensation from the networks if some are bad
but not all. I am in the latter situation right now, waiting to see if
the networks will let me get HD from their sat feeds. There is one
station that is about 80 degrees out of line with all the others and I
cannot get it.

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There is a decent writeup on this subject at:
http/hdtvtechno.netfirms.com/directvhd_locals.htm

Dave G

"SINNER" <arcade.master@googlemail.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9670996EF9F1ALouiscypherhellorg@140.99.99.130...
>* SAC 441 Wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
>
>> SINNER stated (in reply to a satellite delivered HD locals
>> question): ----"Some already are.I believe it depends on your
>> location."----
>>
>>
>> Reply:
>> How can this be? These signals (most of them anyway) are MPEG-4
>> Ka-Band delivered signals are they not? I am not aware of any
>> receivers yet that are available for sale that can receive the
>> Spaceway 1 satellite feeds.I also thought that any NDS boxes would
>> not be out until October at the earliest.
>> Not only that,but I thought the Spaceway 1 satellite was still
>> going
>> through in-orbit testing??
>> If there are HD delivered locals they would have to be in MPEG-2
>> format
>> on current sats and there would not be very many of them due to
>> bandwidth constraints.Do you have a link to this news?
>>
>>
>
> All I can tell you is that occasionaly I see:
>
> HD brought to you by DirecTV at the start and there are hidef
> recievers for DTV that recieve locals.
>
> --
> David

 

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Thanks Dave G for the article link.....this should end a lot of
speculation.

 

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It will be interesting to see if this holds up:
"and customers will require new HD set top boxes due to new compression
technology. Directv will provide the necessary Equipment upgrades for free
for current subscribers, Also Note: Directv will provide the new Hd STB
which also will include an 5th Generation ATSC Tuner, which is the world's
first Best STB available, which will offer the best ATSC signal
performance."

Dave G

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> Thanks Dave G for the article link.....this should end a lot of
> speculation.
>

 

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Dave G wrote:
> When will local HD channels be available through DirecTV instead of
> OTA with separate antenna?
>
> Dave G

You can get E or W coast feeds for CBS and FOX if you live in an OAO
market. See DirectTV.com for more details.

MPEG4 local feeds are at least a year off. Probably more.


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David G said:
----"MPEG 4 local feeds are at least a year off.
Probably more."----


Reply:
No,DirecTV has said that the 12 top TV markets (New York,Los
Angeles,Chicago,
Philadelphia,Boston,San Francisco,Dallas,
Washington D.C.,Atlanta,Detroit,Houston, and Tampa) will be the first
demographic markets to receive the new MPEG-4 signals later in the
second half of THIS YEAR.Others will follow later over the next 2 years.
Obviously,the new receivers will be released
for sale and/or upgrade a little before then.

See http/hdtvtechno.netfirms.com/directvhd_locals.htm

 

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SAC 441 wrote:
> SINNER stated (in reply to a satellite delivered HD locals question):
> ----"Some already are.I believe it depends on your location."----
>
> Reply:
> How can this be? These signals (most of them anyway) are MPEG-4 Ka-Band
> delivered signals are they not?

No, they are not. The local HD channels being carried currently
are using the existing hardware, not the newly launched satellite.

You are correct in that in the future, additional local HD channels
will be using the incompatible method.
-Joe

 

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SAC441@webtv.net (SAC 441) wrote in news:19884-42A89B5A-217@storefull-
3257.bay.webtv.net:

> SINNER stated (in reply to a satellite delivered HD locals question):
> ----"Some already are.I believe it depends on your location."----
>
>
> Reply:
> How can this be? These signals (most of them anyway) are MPEG-4 Ka-Band
> delivered signals are they not? I am not aware of any receivers yet that
> are available for sale that can receive the Spaceway 1 satellite feeds.I
> also thought that any NDS boxes would not be out until October at the
> earliest.
> Not only that,but I thought the Spaceway 1 satellite was still going
> through in-orbit testing??
> If there are HD delivered locals they would have to be in MPEG-2 format
> on current sats and there would not be very many of them due to
> bandwidth constraints.Do you have a link to this news?

He is correct - some already are.


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Jim H said in reply to an OLD post:
----"He is correct-some already are."----


Reply:
That posting you referenced is somewhat dated.You ought to read some of
the other replies in this thread.There are NO currently available MPEG-4
offerings YET from DirecTV.
The first top 12 TV markets will be the first to receive those(later
this year),followed by others over a 2 year period.As to current MPEG-2
technology,who cares? As to HD locals,as time goes on it will be more
and more irrelevant.The only MPEG-2 locals I am aware of in HD are New
York and L.A.

 

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* SAC 441 Wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:

> Jim H said in reply to an OLD post:
> ----"He is correct-some already are."----
>
>
> Reply:
> That posting you referenced is somewhat dated.You ought to read
> some of the other replies in this thread.There are NO currently
> available MPEG-4 offerings YET from DirecTV.

While this is true, YOU were the one that said something about MPEG-4
which is really not the questions that was asked.

> The first top 12 TV markets will be the first to receive
> those(later this year),followed by others over a 2 year period.As
> to current MPEG-2 technology,who cares?

What? What do you mean who cares? How about the OP?

> As to HD locals,as time
> goes on it will be more and more irrelevant.The only MPEG-2 locals
> I am aware of in HD are New York and L.A.
>

And Dallas and....

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To SINNER:
Yes,the OP does care.....I was replying to Jim H.In any event,the amount
of HD locals available to MPEG-2 users is insignificant compared to the
upcoming MPEG-4 system.If I were considering any upgrades to accomodate
this availability I would wait instead of investing any money in the
current HD system.
When I first posted,I was unaware of DirecTV's plans later on this year
until another poster from another group relayed the information.
He is going to do what he wants anyway,and I am making the observation
that the current HD system via satellite will soon be inferior.
I,MYSELF am waiting for the Spaceway sats to be available before I
invest in converting over to HD.

 

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"SINNER" <arcade.master@googlemail.net> wrote in message news:Xns96749188E38B6Louiscypherhellorg@140.99.99.130...
....
>
> > As to HD locals,as time
> > goes on it will be more and more irrelevant.The only MPEG-2 locals
> > I am aware of in HD are New York and L.A.
> >
>
> And Dallas and....
....

MPEG-2 from New York and L.A. probably reference the 4 National
networks which deliver HD via DirecTV to select customers.

They are not local channels, but a subset of local channels
and available nationwide. Local channels are transmitted
via spot beam satellite, while National channels are not.

The big 4 networks are also available in standard definition
nationwide to those in non-served local markets.

 

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SAC441@webtv.net (SAC 441) wrote in news:28760-42AC73F9-16@storefull-
3257.bay.webtv.net:

> Jim H said in reply to an OLD post:
> ----"He is correct-some already are."----
>
>
> Reply:
> That posting you referenced is somewhat dated.You ought to read some of
> the other replies in this thread.There are NO currently available MPEG-4
> offerings YET from DirecTV.

He claimed nothing about MPEG-4. All he said was that SOME are receiving
HD locals NOW. You seemed to have a big problem with that statement. His
statement was 100% correct.

> The first top 12 TV markets will be the first to receive those(later
> this year),followed by others over a 2 year period.As to current MPEG-2
> technology,who cares? As to HD locals,as time goes on it will be more
> and more irrelevant.The only MPEG-2 locals I am aware of in HD are New
> York and L.A.

You are the one who keeps bringing up MPEG-4, which has nothing to do with
the FACT that SOME are getting HD locals NOW. That's all he said. You said
you were not aware of anyone receiving HD locals. You jumped all over him,
asked for "press releases" and then went on and on about MPEG-4. You were
wrong. Some ARE receiving HD locals, just like he said. Admit it, get over
it, and move on.

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