McAfee: Hackers Going After Cars Next

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eddieroolz

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Frankly there are some places in the world that should not be connected to the internet. A car is one. Another would be the government classified computer system.
 

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Really doesn't surprise me at all...well, actually it kind of did, but only before I realized how much of a 'duh' moment this is for the auto industry.
 

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[citation]Researchers at several universities have demonstrated that critical safety components of an automobile can be hacked if physical access to the vehicle’s electronic components is available.[/citation]

That made me laugh. It's like saying, "Hey, we did some research over here and you know what, we found out that if someone has access to your door lock, shit, they can unlock it!" It's so obvious, if you have access to the controlling mechanism of something you will in fact have control of it.

Now enough with that, I'm surprised this hasn't been raise before, it's not a new issue. When cars started to do wireless entry and start in the 90s I thought it was a bad idea. One person could break into a car without to much difficulty if they had the right device. For example, watch Ghost Dog, you'll see what I'm talking about. People should just be lucky criminals haven't taken the time to go high tech, eventually they will. They should have known that well over a decade ago.
 

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I think I've had enough of mediocre companies that should have gone out of business 10 years ago making wild guesses to en-site panic
 

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"Researchers at several universities have demonstrated that critical safety components of an automobile can be hacked if physical access to the vehicle’s electronic components is available," McAfee said. "Other researchers have showed that an attack can be mounted to track a vehicle and compromise passengers’ privacy by tracking the RFID tags using powerful long-distance readers at around 40 meters."
Well, duh!
 
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What, like McAfee are going to come up with some solution that will protect our cars like they do our Computers. It would be like giving the keys away to the criminal, no need for them to even try hacking in if McAfee is on it!

Dont beleive me, here look at this

http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/RAP/RAP-quadrant-Feb-Aug11-850.jpg

Sure use McAfee if you only want 4/5ths protection, and this quadrant is one of their best!

The worst thing about McAfee is it wont die now because Intel owns them, what a bloody shame!
 

alyoshka

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FEAR rules the world, I think some brainy chap at McAfee has figured it out ......
Now you need to get a Certified AntiVirus for your car with the Insurance or it's going to be a crime.....
 

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[citation][nom]back_by_demand[/nom]Tracking by RFID tabs from 40m?How about tracking by number plate recognition cameras from a lot, lot further away.[/citation]
Yep, plus no matter how directional your RFID scanner is, the camera can actually pinpoint your location, while the RFID can only get you a general area. Not to mention with a camera you can, well, record faces and such...

Also, tracking by RFID-like tags has been in use for about two decades in Portugal, for toll payments. You pass under an archway, your tag gets read (you have to buy one, btw), then at the end of the month the company automatically gets the money from your bank account. Simple, and can save A LOT of time, especially in high-traffic tolls. In recent years, this system has even been extended to a few underground parking spaces and gas stations. Can't see a problem with it, you can't know where *I* am, you can only know where *my car* is, and I'm not the only one driving it...

In more relevant matters, I do think this might become a problem in the future. However, it can be more or less controllable: you just need to completely separate some parts of the car electronics from the rest.

Let's face it: apart from very limited interventions at a garage, there is, nor should there be, any reasons for having security features (and the central CPU) of a car communicating with anything else, thus shouldn't even be allowed access to an external network (preferably, only the power source should be shared, if really needed).

At the same time, entertainment appliances and GPS have NO need to be sharing information with, well, anything under the bonnet, really. They might need to interface with an external network and with users, but that's it. And, if something gets corrupted/catches a virus/whatever, it won't compromise the fundamental security features.

It seems to me it's mostly a design problem, really. Sure, you might need to firewall your car (which anyone with a carputer accessing external networks already does, or should do, anyway), or even run AV software, but provided you keep security features and entertainment/location features unable to share data between them, you should be fine.

Cheers.

Miguel
 

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the car, the ipad, iphone, cellphone, router, and next, what's should protect against? microwave, oven, fridge, tv!!!
 

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even more reason to have a aftermarket alarm system. I always recommend a Clifford alarm even if you get car jacked you should be able to get your car back the same day without the need for a tracking device. so if your spending 7K-40K its your fault for not getting a $500 alarm.

I dont understand how a $50K car is the number one stolen car(Escalade).
 

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Hey McAfee, instead of trying to be on the news every other day...how about using the resources on your antivirus programs. Even free AVs like AVG perform better than your bloatware.
 

zoemayne

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lol so now we need virus protection for our cars. mcafee and norton is a joke. when will consumers stop paying for such. I know all the free virus s/w is hurting them they need to cease to exist.
 

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I must be ahead of Mac-A-Fee's time because I was hacking Car ECMs back in the '80s. In 2000 I put a '95 Camaro ECM into my '86 vette and hacked the crap out of the timing and fuel settings to make it go faster. People have been hacking Cars even before my time, they were just called gear-heads, grease monkeys, etc... Go away McFreeMoney
 
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