[citation][nom]fyasko[/nom]I will steer clear... the wii was enough of a bomb... motion and little controller screens are not my thing... what happened to REAL puzzle games or REAL games. resident evil 1 and 2, twisted metal, super mario world and 64, tomb raider 1, medievil... games suck now, all the FPS are trying to be real shooters or future shooters that try to be realistic... what happened to arena FPS? quake 2 was amazing, remake it in HD...[/citation]
puzzle games are better on a touch screen.
re 1 and 2 had the worst game controles ever put into games... survival horror in general was crap till got rid of those controls.
twisted metal was a driving shooting game, largely based on the mario cart (snes) mechanic of multiplayer battle, and that crap tends to get boring after... how many twisted metals were their? and they were all basically rehashes.
super mario world and 64, you get that now, with galaxy for the 64 one, and hand held and the party one for the 2d verity.
tomb raider 1, a game based largely on a out of proportion woman, i cant speak for the game as i never played it in depth, but the mechanics that i played sucked.
medievil, only played a demo of that, no idea if it was good or not, but thanks for reminding me to get it in some way.
for arena shooters, look at quake online, and serious sam
the over the top shooters died out, because death match is only so fun, with military ones you can easily add levels and many guns that aren't exactly unbalanced. pluss they sell better than even the best cartoony fps.
[citation][nom]TheViper[/nom]1. This is incredibly common in the industry. Almost ALL early images of new games are from the lead development platform even if the publisher shows the game for many consoles.2. Few developers have had dev kits for long so there is very little actual Wii U development to show. The point of the clips were to show games already out (or on the way) that would normally not come to Wii but will now come to Wii U.3. Wii U is actually quite a bit more powerful than the PS3 and X360. The Zelda demo, Japanese garden demo and the 'behind closed doors' street demo prove it's a generation beyond the current HD consoles.[/citation]
not exactly. the console will be more powerful, but not the way you are thinking. nintendo will put this out at profit, but no more than 300$, 350 at most, and the controller is between 60-90$ many resting on 70$ (price of a mote and nunchuck) so the inside will roughly be the same as a ps3 or 360 with slight differences, such as i believe more ram (its cheaper now than back than)
now take a look at dx10 and 11, if you take advantage of no new things in dx11, 11 renders crap 33% faster than 10. im assuming that this will allow the wiiu to render at 1080p what other console can only do 720p, and with ram, allow higher rez textures.
the zelda clip they showed (watched it streaming, but it was higher quality stream at the time) didnt look like it was a generation gap between the ps3, it just looked like a game built soley for the system.
and the bird demo, if this was alpha demo (as in not optomised, but brute forced) than the console will be amazing, but watch it again, and you will notice allot of little crap that current games do missing, like when the flower hits the water, there is no movement in the watter (i mean texture map change, not actual watter physics )
i ahve no doubt its more powerfull, but i also take what i see and pick it the @#%@ apart.
and kudos to them, for not using target renders and actual renders from comparable consoles.
[citation][nom]Arglebargle[/nom]I recall when the PS3 was about to launch, and a racing game was "demoed" using prerendered cut scenes. The footage was better than the PS3 could possibly come up with in-game. I'm guessing the same for Nintendo. Ho hum.[/citation]
the bird thing was real, it was missing so much crap graphically that i would assume the person who made it was retarded if it was meant to be a cg target render. and what you are talking about is the killzone demo, and if you take away the smoke detail, i think that what came out looks better than the render over all.
[citation][nom]jfby[/nom]Saying it's going to look better than the PS3 and XBOX 360 because it has 1080P is just plain idiotic. Besides, those systems are long in the tooth by now, and the Wii U's hardware is going to be 3 years old when it launches![/citation]
and games being played in 1080p at 60 hrz dont look better than 720p at 30... wow what kind of backwards world have i fallen into...
i seriously doubt nintendo will !#@% itself with the hard core they are trying to win back with sending out hardware that cant play great graphics at 1080p. i mean if they did, why even upgrade from the wii? the hardcore would pass them up, i myself would just rend a system for a week when zelda comes out if they dont deliver this time.
[citation][nom]the1kingbob[/nom]As they have not actually released all the specs for the hardware, it is still up in the air on how it will perform. As I have seen it will have pretty much have a IBM CPU just like the 360 but maybe another core? The GPU is rumored to be an revision of the R700( Not sure the number, which ever one the 4870/4890 are made from ) which is the same setup the 360 has.-It is pretty awesome the Wii is going to enter the HD arena, sadly they did it years after 360 and PS3. And at no surprise is will likely perform better than a console that has been out for years. One thing has to be remembered though... Wii U will be outdated and slow when 360 and PS3 Nextgens release.[/citation]
360 taken from wiki
---- The Xenos is a custom graphics processing unit (GPU) designed by ATI, used in the Xbox 360 video game console. Developed under the codename "C1,"[1] it is in many ways related to the R520 architecture and therefore very similar to an ATI Radeon X1900/X1950 series of PC graphics cards as far as features and performance are concerned ----
the rumored gpu is at least 3 generations down the line from the 360 version, but here is what im thinking. the 4850 is about 100$ and the 5770 is about the same price too and again the 6770 is about the same price. so why not dump a 5770 (most powerful of the 3) into the console, this is assuming that manufacture process is about the same as the older one. so it could be from a newer card.
), but I think it brings into perspective on how behind the console market must be in the hardware department to keep cost low. Using a card that will be several generations older than current technology.
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