No Porn for Windows Phone 7 Users Either

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@Microsoft: There is this new open source platform out there, you may have heard of it, called android. It uses java for the code, anyone can code what they want for it, and push it for free to the android market place for free.

Thus my question: why in the world do you think people would pay you 100$ annually to "have the privilege to code for your OS", especially sense your phone hasn't been released yet and thus has approximately 0.0% market share?!?

I honestly want to know what they were thinking when they made this decision...
 

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Microsoft too? Those concerned (over nothing) parents and politicians are getting too much attention.

I wonder if they realize what the internet browser can do, or are they going to limit that as well?
 

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do the people even making these phone OS's know how they work?
maybe 5% of the people using a phone for porn wouldn't use an app, they would use the browser.
seriously hope they don't think "no porn apps" mean the use of it is incapable of porn.

its got a SB card and movie player....that there says up to 16g of porn for someone that into it.
 

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Good... now I don't have to read anymore idiotic Jobs/porn comments. In this case, it's not the parents and politicians concerned over nothing, it's the people that actually care about having porn on their mobile devices and are making a big deal out of it. Seriously... you must be a sexual predator if you need access to porn 24/7 at work or on your way to work. Leave the porn at home like normal people.
 

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[citation][nom]Maxor127[/nom]Good... now I don't have to read anymore idiotic Jobs/porn comments. In this case, it's not the parents and politicians concerned over nothing, it's the people that actually care about having porn on their mobile devices and are making a big deal out of it. Seriously... you must be a sexual predator if you need access to porn 24/7 at work or on your way to work. Leave the porn at home like normal people.[/citation]
way to stereotype and belittle someone by making judgments on their mental state, and claiming they must be sexual deviates of the worst in humanity, based off a post!

its more about the people selling us things deciding what we want to use them for. I don't have porn on my phone, but I wholly agree if someone wants to use it for that, so be it..its their phone, they own it. who is some dev they never met to decide what they want/need on their phone?
I don't keep MP3's on my phone either..what if they decided "no mp3's shall be allowed to be added to the phone, as we dont like music" Id be upset also for those that do.
would you take the same stance? or call music lovers some sort of social outcasts for desiring music to listen to while at work, causing them to be less productive and distracted also?
 

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It's kind of strange for Microsoft, which has become very respected in porn loving circles for their porn surfer known as Bing.

I wonder why these companies feel like this is a good business decision. I guess there are a lot of parents who are concerned about this and they are buying the phones. Nothing else makes much sense. I guess it is very common for parents to buy these types of phones for kids, and porn is a big deterrent.
 
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I'm with Kyeana. Google doesn't charge anything to develop and publish Android apps, and M$ doesn't yet have any `mobile app store` market share. Unless they somehow develop an Apple-like cult following overnight, it's ridiculous for them to treat developers the same way Apple does.
 

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We all point to android, yet unlike the apple articles, no one is accusing MSFT of being totalitarion, dictatorial, and sonofabitchy.

:?
 

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[citation][nom]Zinosys[/nom]We all point to android, yet unlike the apple articles, no one is accusing MSFT of being totalitarion, dictatorial, and sonofabitchy.:?[/citation]
how about

[citation][nom]TunaSoda[/nom]1984[/citation]
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[citation][nom]kyeana[/nom]@Microsoft: There is this new open source platform out there, you may have heard of it, called android. It uses java for the code, anyone can code what they want for it, and push it for free to the android market place for free. Thus my question: why in the world do you think people would pay you 100$ annually to "have the privilege to code for your OS", especially sense your phone hasn't been released yet and thus has approximately 0.0% market share?!? I honestly want to know what they were thinking when they made this decision...[/citation]

wow you apple fanbois really are blind
 

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so Microsoft expects the DEVELOPERS to pay up for access to their market....

a) this means the dev's take a risk that their app might not be popular/useful enough to be profitable...

b) the price of the app is going to be higher, because dev's costs are higher, = bad for consumers.

c) 100 bucks for unlimited paid apps, bit only 5 free apps or pay 20 buck per extra free app = no or less trial apps!

d) only dev's who have lots of apps are going to front up 100 bucks = less support for apps, less updates for apps, aaannnd less independent software developers eg students, geeks, etc.

Microsoft: Congratulations on making the iPhone market seem good.

Rubbing my hands in glee that this means Android will take off, as its the only truly open market.
 

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They know that you can access porn through a browser but if you buy an x-rated app from them there is an issue of liability. If you access a porn website though the browser it has nothing to do with Apple or Microsoft.
Remember how Rockstar Games got in trouble over the Hot Coffee mod? And it wasn't even their mod.
 

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As a developer and a consumer, I think that this system should work well in theory. My biggest gripe with fully open source is that for every top notch program there are hundreds that are a complete disgrace.

My friends and I often talk about the pros and cons of the various smart phone platforms. Two have android devices, two have apple devices, and I have a WinMo device. The android users are on their five phone combined, the apple users are on their forth combined, and I'm still on my original phone I imported. The apple users are still jealous that I pay only $20 a month through ATT and can tether (as I'm doing now to type this), and one of the android users is finally able to do it as of a month ago. This is all, of course, beyond the scope of this thread.

Apple's app store is really nice. It's very developed and has a ton of nifty programs that generally don't cost very much. The cost of developing for the Apple platform is pretty expensive though, along with a waiver of naturally assumed rights. The android store reminds me a lot of your typical linux software repository full of a TON of programs, most of which are amateurish, buggy or completely redundant; but it's making progress, which is really nice to see. Finding applications for WinMo has gotten easier over the last couple of years with major publishers offering software from a variety of developers.

A $100 subscription is a very small price to pay, one that most developers who create decent software wouldn't mind either. It hinders those that want to create something amateurish and then not provide any support later down the road.

I'm exhausted right now so maybe what I'm saying is very coherent. Let me leave you with this. Aside from the obvious in hardware capability, there are a ton more developers for Wii and DS than PS3, PSP, and X360. Though there are a few gems that made it to Wii and DS, most people consider the games for these platforms to be crap. The cost of developing for Wii and DS is abysmal compared to developing for Sony and Microsoft's platforms, and that's not even taking into account the royalties.

Developing a title that you know will fail, will in fact cost you. Is this a good thing or a bad thing? I think it's a good thing because how often do we look at software and question why it even exists in the first place?
 
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Microsoft aka "The Undeserved OS Monopoly" now wants to be like Apple and decide what applications you may run on your phone? Thank you, Microsoft, your going to throw away more business to Android than they ever could've taken from you themselves.

Linux/Android: The OS for people who don't feel that they need Big Brother watching over their every move, deciding what is and isn't fit to see.

When I was a kid, the Apple II was considered high-end, there wasn't enough computational power in a PC(or enough int3rw3bz) to have the kind of surveillance society we have now... and you know what? The world didn't come to an end just because we didn't have an ruthless oligarchy watching our every move. Freedom and privacy are a good thing, give it a chance.
 

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I hope you guys keep in mind that this is just the rules for Microsoft's marketplace...

If you want to create adult oriented software on your own with your own publisher, then feel free. You don't actually have to use the marketplace. In that respect, nothing has changed. The thing is that Microsoft has never really had a central "app store" for it's Windows Mobile platform. The scope of this article is simply the rules in place regarding participation in this new marketplace.
 
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It is about liability folks. Looking at this as if MS or Appl were playing big brother is short sided and immature. These companies do not want to risk being liable for distribution of adult content to minors. Its that simple. App stores w/ registration and personally identifiable information, would assume the issuer of content has some method to validate the customers age. It is expensive to put controls in place to insure age related content is restricted and assumes a huge responsibility. Any upset parent who sees little Johnny or Sally with the dancing stripper animated wallpaper from the app store is apt to open a damages or class action lawsuit.

Think about it... These enterprises don't want to meddle there and would rather leave the adult content to other providers.
 
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