NSA-Free Cloud Storage Promised by Finnish Company

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hannibal

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This has been discussed in Finnish media for a while. The idea is to provide "Switherland bank" for data. Interesting consept, and so far Finland covenrment don't have automatic acces to the material, but as it has been said, the transfers to Finland can be monitored. In anyway it is important that internet privacy is discussed. It would be guite interesting to see the international criminal organizations to take cover in Finland :) So the situation is not so easy as it would seems to be, but there has to be some rules of how the situation is handled in the future.
 

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As if the data couldn't be collected at the ISP since there really isn't any indication that encryption is used to transport the data from the CPU to this cloud platform...
 

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slomo4sho > why didn't you think encryption is used in the transport? F-Secure is a software security company for many years, and they're dealing with prying eyes from NSA, wouldn't you think encryption is implicit?

They've stress the point of "No backdoors."
 

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And why should we trust these guys? It could just as well be a front for the NSA.

This, ladies and gentlemen, is the overarching problem that these NSA leaks have caused. An internet service like this is based on trust but trust is in short supply now... I can't inspect their servers or employess and, even if I could, how would I know what to look for? It's a sad time for the intertubes... :(
 

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Thats exactly the problem. All of these US compnies have been promising for years that they weren't handing over massive ammounts of data to the government, and now we know that that was a lie.
If a company is ordered by their government/courts to lie to the public, we now know that that they will. All these US companies must be freaking out over the damage that this leak has caused to them. This is going to dog the US for years.
 

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@amdfreak, considering they destroyed Lavabit just because one person was using their service, Id say they are ruining innocent lives as well in the process.
 

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@milktea

Maybe because the article specifically said there was no indication of whether encryption is going to be used or not?

Nor was it clear whether Younited would encrypt user data, or would be subject to Finnish police or governmental requests for information.
 

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NSA has probably made a major damage to US cloud companies
I haven't even thought about that. NSA evil knows no bounds. They would rather destroy their own companies that act decent and civilized. Evil illegal spying 4tw.
 

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NSA is like a bully at school. They will keep doing that till someone bigger comes and screws them up.
Might take some time, but sooner or later it will happen.
 

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If the NSA is so hungry for data, then why not start their own backup and cloud storage service, and make it free.

I could use a cheap way to backup around 4 TB of data (especially the nearly 2 TB of the camera raw files)
 

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Even if the Finnish government promises to keep its hands off Younited, that doesn't mean that the NSA or other agencies couldn't find another way to address user data .. which basically translates in to hacking the crap out their servers, which if Joe public did it, when end up a guest of federal prison, or a mud hut in a very hot desert, with black hooded men as your guards, answering to nobody but the untouchable suites in the US !
 

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NSA effect: big companies invest more in security, people don't feel any privacy when surfing the internet. Is not this therrorism?
 

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This point in time presents a never before seen opportunity for international companies to flourish - if they are able to provide a service that will ensure the safety of the user's data with an infrastructure that guarantees privacy from all sorts of cybercriminals people will certainly be interested. It also presents great opportunities for international hardware companies - if they offer equipment that has not been tampered with by the NSA they will outsell any competitor in the market - present and future. Of course not all the countries would be worth trusting - we know some of the countries who have participated in this horrendous civilian cyber-espionage mess and those will never be trusted again.
 

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You know this all depends on who houses the infrastructure. If they do this on say an Amazon S3 cluster it's still subject to FISA warrants and all the rhetoric would be useless.
 
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