photographic rates - what do you charge?

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ok, so i have plenty of clients but this one is in a different league
entirely. mercedes want to print out 250,000 copies of a picture of mine at
6x4 inches which is massively more than ive ever had produced before. what
do people charge for this level of client and size of job? anyone got a ball
park figure?
cheers
james
 
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Am a photographer i.e. I would out source it and add 40 to 60% as your profit!

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"gonzo" <james@SPAMisEVILzerblattzoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> ok, so i have plenty of clients but this one is in a different league
> entirely. mercedes want to print out 250,000 copies of a picture of mine at
> 6x4 inches which is massively more than ive ever had produced before. what
> do people charge for this level of client and size of job? anyone got a ball
> park figure?
> cheers
> james
>
>
 
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gonzo wrote:
> ok, so i have plenty of clients but this one is in a different
> league
> entirely. mercedes want to print out 250,000 copies of a picture of
> mine at 6x4 inches which is massively more than ive ever had
> produced
> before. what do people charge for this level of client and size of
> job? anyone got a ball park figure?
> cheers
> james

These guys have references. Also sell or point to products that make
such estimates.
http://editorialphotographers.com/

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"Backbone" <backboneaccessflaps@flapscomcast.net> wrote in message
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> Am a photographer i.e. I would out source it and add 40 to 60% as your
profit!
>
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i have (saves me taking the damn thing myself plus other fees as i found one
online just like they wanted and got that). still dont know how much to ask
them for though. the image will be half a page of a4 by the way.
cheers
james
 

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"gonzo" <james@SPAMisEVILzerblattzoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "Backbone" <backboneaccessflaps@flapscomcast.net> wrote in message
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>> Am a photographer i.e. I would out source it and add 40 to 60% as your
> profit!
>>
>> --
>> There are no words that can be heard unless someone listens....
>> Remove *flaps* to reply
>
> i have (saves me taking the damn thing myself plus other fees as i found
> one
> online just like they wanted and got that). still dont know how much to
> ask
> them for though. the image will be half a page of a4 by the way.
> cheers
> james
>
>


I do hope I mis-understood your last post.

It reads as if you have "borrowed" a picture from someone else on the web,
and are going to sell that to Mercedes.

If that is the case then it could get very interesting when either the
Copyright holder or Mercedes find out.

You do realise that every commercial photographer who reads this group will
now be paying great attention to Mercedes advertising literature.
 

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"Roy" <royphoty@iona-guesthouse.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "gonzo" <james@SPAMisEVILzerblattzoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:zVmke.11647$X86.9392@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
> >
> > "Backbone" <backboneaccessflaps@flapscomcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:JcednUM5-9tmagzfRVn-rg@giganews.com...
> >> Am a photographer i.e. I would out source it and add 40 to 60% as your
> > profit!
> >>
> >> --
> >> There are no words that can be heard unless someone listens....
> >> Remove *flaps* to reply
> >
> > i have (saves me taking the damn thing myself plus other fees as i found
> > one
> > online just like they wanted and got that). still dont know how much to
> > ask
> > them for though. the image will be half a page of a4 by the way.
> > cheers
> > james
> >
> >
>
>
> I do hope I mis-understood your last post.
>
> It reads as if you have "borrowed" a picture from someone else on the web,
> and are going to sell that to Mercedes.
>
> If that is the case then it could get very interesting when either the
> Copyright holder or Mercedes find out.
>
> You do realise that every commercial photographer who reads this group
will
> now be paying great attention to Mercedes advertising literature.
>
>
no, i bought it from the photographer complete with rights for a mere 50
quid! how is getting a picture borrowing? time to relurk with such helpful
posters.
cheers
james
 
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> no, i bought it from the photographer complete with rights for a mere 50
> quid! how is getting a picture borrowing? time to relurk with such helpful
> posters.

How about charging ONE MEEL-YON DOLLARS! <g>

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"gonzo" <james@SPAMisEVILzerblattzoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "Roy" <royphoty@iona-guesthouse.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:uloke.19028$sE4.5222@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
>> "gonzo" <james@SPAMisEVILzerblattzoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:zVmke.11647$X86.9392@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
>> >
>> > "Backbone" <backboneaccessflaps@flapscomcast.net> wrote in message
>> > news:JcednUM5-9tmagzfRVn-rg@giganews.com...
>> >> Am a photographer i.e. I would out source it and add 40 to 60% as your
>> > profit!
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> There are no words that can be heard unless someone listens....
>> >> Remove *flaps* to reply
>> >
>> > i have (saves me taking the damn thing myself plus other fees as i
>> > found
>> > one
>> > online just like they wanted and got that). still dont know how much to
>> > ask
>> > them for though. the image will be half a page of a4 by the way.
>> > cheers
>> > james
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> I do hope I mis-understood your last post.
>>
>> It reads as if you have "borrowed" a picture from someone else on the
>> web,
>> and are going to sell that to Mercedes.
>>
>> If that is the case then it could get very interesting when either the
>> Copyright holder or Mercedes find out.
>>
>> You do realise that every commercial photographer who reads this group
> will
>> now be paying great attention to Mercedes advertising literature.
>>
>>
> no, i bought it from the photographer complete with rights for a mere 50
> quid! how is getting a picture borrowing? time to relurk with such helpful
> posters.
> cheers
> james
>
>
In that case, all I can say is well done.

If you are only selling them the right to use the photo, charge them £1000
that gives you £750 profit. Not bad for next to no effort.

If that £1000 is well below what they had budgeted for, next time round they
will try you before going to anyone else.

If they want you to produce the prints then charge them at cost to get them
done elsewhere + 100 %.

Your source for the image is not going to be too happy about his £50, so if
you pull the deal off, it might be an idea to give him a bonus, in which
case he might still be willing to supply you next time round.

Remember 1 really good deal is worth a lot less than 10 fairly good deals.

Roy G
 

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"Roy" <royphoty@iona-guesthouse.co.uk> wrote in message
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> > "Roy" <royphoty@iona-guesthouse.co.uk> wrote in message
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> >> "gonzo" <james@SPAMisEVILzerblattzoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> >> >
> >> > "Backbone" <backboneaccessflaps@flapscomcast.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:JcednUM5-9tmagzfRVn-rg@giganews.com...
> >> >> Am a photographer i.e. I would out source it and add 40 to 60% as
your
> >> > profit!
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> There are no words that can be heard unless someone listens....
> >> >> Remove *flaps* to reply
> >> >
> >> > i have (saves me taking the damn thing myself plus other fees as i
> >> > found
> >> > one
> >> > online just like they wanted and got that). still dont know how much
to
> >> > ask
> >> > them for though. the image will be half a page of a4 by the way.
> >> > cheers
> >> > james
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> I do hope I mis-understood your last post.
> >>
> >> It reads as if you have "borrowed" a picture from someone else on the
> >> web,
> >> and are going to sell that to Mercedes.
> >>
> >> If that is the case then it could get very interesting when either the
> >> Copyright holder or Mercedes find out.
> >>
> >> You do realise that every commercial photographer who reads this group
> > will
> >> now be paying great attention to Mercedes advertising literature.
> >>
> >>
> > no, i bought it from the photographer complete with rights for a mere 50
> > quid! how is getting a picture borrowing? time to relurk with such
helpful
> > posters.
> > cheers
> > james
> >
> >
> In that case, all I can say is well done.
>
> If you are only selling them the right to use the photo, charge them £1000
> that gives you £750 profit. Not bad for next to no effort.
yeah, its not the first time ive done it. did it for the civic trust last
year. if the requirement from the client is one photo i just find an amateur
and get him to do it for me for next to nothing. much cheaper than me going
out myself.
> If that £1000 is well below what they had budgeted for, next time round
they
> will try you before going to anyone else.
yup, it was below what they budgeted for. they are going to try me again in
the future, which is good because its a big p.r agency. most clients come
back, normally they are big companies (lots of blue chip ones) but they dont
have such massive requirements, more like 15,000 of something.
> If they want you to produce the prints then charge them at cost to get
them
> done elsewhere + 100 %.
sadly they dont. pity really, i hate to think of the profit i could make
then.
> Your source for the image is not going to be too happy about his £50, so
if
> you pull the deal off, it might be an idea to give him a bonus, in which
> case he might still be willing to supply you next time round.
well i happen to run a number of very successful websites - one has over
20,000 members. a lot of these guys post pics and they are happy simply
getting something published and a little money on the side. it means a lot
more to him than it does me. if he doesnt like it and isnt interested in the
future i know dozens of other people who would do it.
cheers
james
 

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> if he doesnt like it and isnt interested in the
> future i know dozens of other people who would do it.
> cheers
> james
>
>

Great attitude, you don't employ legless children to create your website do
you?
JJ
 

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"JohnJ" <noreply@pobox.com> wrote in message
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> > if he doesnt like it and isnt interested in the
> > future i know dozens of other people who would do it.
> > cheers
> > james
> >
> >
>
> Great attitude, you don't employ legless children to create your website
do
> you?
> JJ
>
no, lol, that is done by an actual company who get paid a nice chunk of
money but we have over 20,000 members and this is one way of paying for a
website thats in the alexa top 10,000 without either banner adverts or
membership fees. how many free to join websites make their members money and
remain free and ad free to join despite 1.6 tb of bandwidth a month :)
cheers
james
 
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"gonzo" <james@SPAMisEVILzerblattzoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "JohnJ" <noreply@pobox.com> wrote in message
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> > > if he doesnt like it and isnt interested in the
> > > future i know dozens of other people who would do it.
> > > cheers
> > > james
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Great attitude, you don't employ legless children to create your website
> do
> > you?
> > JJ
> >
> no, lol, that is done by an actual company who get paid a nice chunk of
> money but we have over 20,000 members and this is one way of paying for a
> website thats in the alexa top 10,000 without either banner adverts or
> membership fees. how many free to join websites make their members money and
> remain free and ad free to join despite 1.6 tb of bandwidth a month :)
>
20,000 is a large group - pls add some links to your sites - are you a host or?
what systems are you runnin - hope you don't mind me asking - am a host -
backboneaccess.com
have 1,000+ clients - no where near 20,000 - that's would be nice i.e. I'd make
actual $$$
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