Plasma TVs to be Banned in Europe?

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what about cars? last time i checked those completely blew everything away in terms of CO2 output and energy inefficiency. Why don't they make more efficient cars. Besides, its Europe, most people don't travel more than 150 miles/day, so an electric car would be fine.

Although, being Europe, alot of people dont drive cars.
 

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UMMMM Have yet to see an EV that gets 150miles on a charge. Besides this is nuts. They ban Plasmas and 100w bulbs? here we are banning bulbs for the damn CFL's. I cant wait really then I get to sue every store that refuses to sell the old ones since the CFL's burn my skin like a sun burn. I guess thats what you get when you have a Nanny state.
 

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Personally, I think this is a good move. However, I like to compromise - how about allow them to keep their energy inefficient electronics but charge them an annual tax. It'll be high enough to pay for the assessors to go door-to-door and subsidize the energy costs of the rest to the point where they would be if people actually gave a darn and realized that energy efficiency is one of the key issues in creating a sustainable energy economy.
 

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Industry and commercial institutions will create more pollution than any combination of consumers can. Stop making gestures that just looks nice cause in the end nothing can possibly change from banning plasmas. You can always raise electricity prices to kill some demand. but realistically, try banning manufacturing from Britain.
 
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Plus,the resolution of Plasma TV's is way lower. You can see a clear 'Grain' on plasma TV's while you can't really see them on an LCD. (unless peering 5inch from the screen).

Plasma makes little sense. In order to not see the grain on Plasma TV's you need to put the Plasma screen further away. To put it away from you, the TV needs to increase in size, in order to have the same viewing comfort as with a similar LCD closer by.
Increase the TV,and you increase the powerdraw exponentially; meaning, putting a TV 2x further away, it'll need to grow 4x in size (2xlength, 2x width).
In the end you end up with needing a larger room, you see the same resolution, and use about 4 times the power of an LCD.

With the coming OLED TV's it makes little to no sense anymore to buy plasma. Oled has near to plasma contrast and brightness levels, and consumes even less than LCD.
Oled TV's also can come in 3-5mm thickness;about the size of a mirror with a stand. Way more attractive, way less powerconsumption, and viewing way intenser colors.
 
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[citation][nom]the last resort[/nom]what about cars? last time i checked those completely blew everything away in terms of CO2 output and energy inefficiency. Why don't they make more efficient cars. Besides, its Europe, most people don't travel more than 150 miles/day, so an electric car would be fine.Although, being Europe, alot of people dont drive cars.[/citation]

I think most European cars are from Japan make. Like Toyota,mitshubishi, honda,.... Those cars already have a pretty good efficiency!
(talking about 32mpg). Cars are consuming and polluting as much as cars from the '50's, only they have an increase of over 2x in horsepower, and are tonns safer, and have more comfort.
 

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i think, they require eco-friendly plasmas not totally ban it,
though almost the same banning it since i haven't seen any efficient or eco plasma display.
 

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I love my Panasonic Plasma TV. Everyone that sees it comments positively on it. I'm really not concerned about whether my TV uses more electricity for the couple hours a day I have it on. The comment about seeing "grain" on a plasma just isn't true. You should try to follow the guidelines for seating distance versus screen size and resolution.
 

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I love it when people agree with banning things in a free market. It's a great idea until they ban something you want. Maybe they'll ban religion next.
 

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I wasn't aware that a plasma TV create carbon dioxide... how is that accomplished? This would make me think that without air (or some other abundant form of oxygen-rich gas) the TV would not stay running. I'll have to test one in a hydrogen chamber at work and see if it indeed fails to turn on.

As far as electric cars... do they pollute the environment *LESS* than the fossil fuels that are burned to generate the electricity they store to run on? Oh wait, we're not supposed to talk about or acknowledge that electricity is GENERATED and usually NOT in large quantities from solar and wind power.
 

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On second thought, we should test with helium or nitrogen. Hydrogen may not be a good idea if any oxygen happens to build up from the TV being on :) I guess we just don't know what those crazy 'plasma' TVs may be generating.
 
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Reading an article like this makes me want to go start all of my gas powered lawn/yard tools (2 lawn mowers, weed wacker, back blower, and chain saw) just for the heck of it...
 
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