Sell my ASUS GL752VW - DH71 for a console?

[AdrianJaden]

I've been deciding this for 2 years.

I want to play a lot of games, but my laptop tends to have low frames and can't run it. However, the xbox one can and its can run all 2017 games except my gtx 960m. I feel like i should've went with an xbox one years ago. I could've been playing the new games.

I noticed that there is only CSGO and other low demand games that is on PC. I would rather buy a low end PC for $300 and run csgo at max settings and run Xbox one with the 2017 games. Does that make sense?

The xbox is very cheap and older than my gpu and it can run 2017 games. Quite sad actually. Does this thread make sense? I plan to sell my laptop for ~max $800, minimum $600. Craigslist is showing the same specs for around $800 so i could slip in my laptop for $700.

I actually feel sad cause i could've been playing my favorite release games but nah. Its good that i start now than later and procrastinate even more.

 

[jaguarskx]

PC games always pushes the performance envelope because new hardware is always being released for PC games. Additionally, that standard is desktop hardware rather than laptop hardware. Laptops are generally weaker than desktops because of power and cooling limitations. However, the new GTX 10xx series GPU performance is pretty close on both desktop and laptops.

Console hardware do not change until a newer version is released. However, Microsoft is expected to release the Xbox Scorpio this Christmas which is basically a more powerful version of the Xbox One, not a new console generation. I guess the Scorpio is supposed be able to run games at 4k resolution @ 30 FPS. As long as a game is released for the Xbox One regardless of when the game is released. A 2020 game released for the Xbox One will be playable on any Xbox One because the hardware will not change. The Xbox One is pretty weak, most games are either rendered at 720p or 900p and then stretched to fill a 1080p screen.

A major title PC game released in 2020 would very likely be designed with 2019 / 2020 PC hardware in mind. However, there have been PC games the really pushed demanding graphics so far that the current hardware is not enough to get the best performance. An example would be Crysis released back in 2007, the graphics were cutting edge, but people had to wait until 2009 for new graphic cards to come out that were capable of maxing out all graphic settings while still providing good performance. I think Crysis has been used by many PC enthusiast website to benchmark graphic card through 2013.

 

[xcrusherx13]

I think you should give the master race a second chance, look for tweaking guides for every game and you should be able to find out a good compromise between quality and fps for any game based on your hardware, usually pc games come with more graphic options and some can be very taxing like ambient occlusion and some types of anti-aliasing, I believe a 960m can play even the latest games albeit turning down some of the graphics.
Console games look neat and all cause they are well optimised for the hardware they run on but usually they have a lower resolution and graphic settings that you could try and match with your laptop.
But then again if all you care for is just play the latest games with less hassle as possible then by all means go for a console, but as jaguar said I would wait for scorpio or go for a ps4 pro (also for the sweet exclusives)
Cheers!

 

[GreyCatz]

Hello, Adrian:

I fully understand your mild frustration with the prevailing game strategy of releasing console versions as much as 1 year ahead of PC versions. It may simply come down to basic economics: There's more money to make from this strategy than offering a PC version concurrently with one for consoles.

For the PC gamer, this means having to wait months for a PC-based version while watching endless gameplays and reading tons of reviews about a game you're eagerly awaiting - and when the game does get released for PC, it's usually fraught with sloppy controller adaptations and mediocre menus (aka 'porting').

I'm a PC person myself and I have only used a console very briefly a very long time ago. I have little experience with consoles but I can tell from the messy layout in the PC game version that it was clearly designed for anything but a keyboard and mouse setup. While you can buy a controller unit for PC, it does seem a half-baked solution in my opinion. And you can shell out hundreds of dollars on 'gaming' keyboards and mouse peripherals - it still won't change the fact that your game is fundamentally designed for a controller and relies on hardware with a very narrow but also extremely focused purpose.

A few examples:
a) Tomb Raider (2013) and Rise of the Tomb Raider (2015): While the menu itself is decent, at least 6 times during the game the mouse will disengage completely at very critical points leaving me to navigate with arrow keys only. I'm sure similar problems don't occur in the original console version.

b) Metal Gear Solid (2016): The keyboard controls are a confusing mess and sometimes you get icons only found on controllers (the cross-shaped navigation button) which of course makes no sense on a keyboard. On several occasions I have had to guess what LT or RT corresponds to on my keyboard in this or that particular situation.

As I suspect this strategy is unlikely to change I cannot fault your decision in any way. If you're willing to 'trade in' the upgradability and sophistication that come with PCs for early access to your favourite games and the UI layout originally intended, then going console-only seems a sensible way out.

But, as people on e.g. YouTube will testify, PC versions do offer a crisper and more pleasant viewing experience - largely because of the upgradability options available to PC gamers. But since most PCs are designed to be multi-purpose machines, you often need very powerful (i.e. expensive) hardware components to keep the machine running as smoothly as a 'standard' console.

For the forseeable future, I'll stick to my guns (keyboard/mouse) - mainly because I'm not an all-out gamer and I like messing with hardware.

Happy gaming,
GreyCatz.

 

[AdrianJaden]

Hello, Adrian:

I fully understand your mild frustration with the prevailing game strategy of releasing console versions as much as 1 year ahead of PC versions. It may simply come down to basic economics: There's more money to make from this strategy than offering a PC version concurrently with one for consoles.

For the PC gamer, this means having to wait months for a PC-based version while watching endless gameplays and reading tons of reviews about a game you're eagerly awaiting - and when the game does get released for PC, it's usually fraught with sloppy controller adaptations and mediocre menus (aka 'porting').

I'm a PC person myself and I have only used a console very briefly a very long time ago. I have little experience with consoles but I can tell from the messy layout in the PC game version that it was clearly designed for anything but a keyboard and mouse setup. While you can buy a controller unit for PC, it does seem a half-baked solution in my opinion. And you can shell out hundreds of dollars on 'gaming' keyboards and mouse peripherals - it still won't change the fact that your game is fundamentally designed for a controller and relies on hardware with a very narrow but also extremely focused purpose.

A few examples:
a) Tomb Raider (2013) and Rise of the Tomb Raider (2015): While the menu itself is decent, at least 6 times during the game the mouse will disengage completely at very critical points leaving me to navigate with arrow keys only. I'm sure similar problems don't occur in the original console version.

b) Metal Gear Solid (2016): The keyboard controls are a confusing mess and sometimes you get icons only found on controllers (the cross-shaped navigation button) which of course makes no sense on a keyboard. On several occasions I have had to guess what LT or RT corresponds to on my keyboard in this or that particular situation.

As I suspect this strategy is unlikely to change I cannot fault your decision in any way. If you're willing to 'trade in' the upgradability and sophistication that come with PCs for early access to your favourite games and the UI layout originally intended, then going console-only seems a sensible way out.

But, as people on e.g. YouTube will testify, PC versions do offer a crisper and more pleasant viewing experience - largely because of the upgradability options available to PC gamers. But since most PCs are designed to be multi-purpose machines, you often need very powerful (i.e. expensive) hardware components to keep the machine running as smoothly as a 'standard' console.

For the forseeable future, I'll stick to my guns (keyboard/mouse) - mainly because I'm not an all-out gamer and I like messing with hardware.

Happy gaming,
GreyCatz.

Ive decided to just sell my laptop for a better desktop PC. In the future, im going to save a few hundred dollars and sell my laptop for around ~$700. Im going to do a lot more research into parts. Since new parts came out, i'm gonna have a blast with the new games.

The thing that struck me was that controller just sucks in general. I would rather have a mouse and keyboard. Also, its not just more than that, but i can't lay my finger on it. However, thanks a lot for helping me choose the disadvantages and advantages on both decisions!