Streaming to a PC

[Greg]

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What is the current best solution for this?

 

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On 11 Oct 2004 20:58:46 GMT, gfretwell@aol.com (Greg) wrote:

>What is the current best solution for this?

DVArchive (http/www.dvarchive.org/).

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Greg wrote:

> What is the current best solution for this?

DVArchive and vlc

 

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On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 18:58:42 -0400, Tony D <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

>Greg wrote:
>
>> What is the current best solution for this?
>
>DVArchive and vlc

DVArchive (http/www.dvarchive.org/) to get it to the PC anv VLC
(http/www.videolan.org/vlc/index.html) to play the .MPG files you
transferred.

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[Greg]

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OK Thanks, Nobody has come up with a RTV lookalike interface yet?

 

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On 12 Oct 2004 00:13:50 GMT, gfretwell@aol.com (Greg) wrote:

>OK Thanks, Nobody has come up with a RTV lookalike interface yet?

In what way?

DVArchive provides some of that. It looks enough like a Replay, that a
real Replay will recognize it on a network.

I have 3 real Replays (all 5xxx) on my network. The Replay guide will
show 4. The 3 Replays and the computer running DVArchive. It has a
show on it (that was transferred from one of the real Replays) that
can be played from and Replay just like a show on a real Replay.

DVA can act as a remore control for any Replay (plus lets you use the
keyboard).

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[Greg]

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OK thanks. I guess I have to revisit DVA. I have a copy of an early edition.
Can you start playing a show while it is transferring like a streaming replay?

 

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On 12 Oct 2004 00:58:09 GMT, gfretwell@aol.com (Greg) wrote:

>OK thanks. I guess I have to revisit DVA. I have a copy of an early edition.

Version 2.x? The current version (3.1) is a lot more capable. It can
display a guide (which can, and should be setup the same as on your
Replay). You can schedule shows directly from that guide, as well as
see which shows are already scheduled. The guide can be made available
to every computer of your LAN. That's the TV schedule I use now.

>Can you start playing a show while it is transferring like a streaming replay?

Yes, as long as you have the proper player set up on the computer. See
the website for information. Note that this may not work right if your
network is wireless.

One thing they may not tell you, is that DVA works better if your
firewall passes class D addresses (specifically 239.255.255.250) on
your local network.

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Greg wrote:

> OK thanks. I guess I have to revisit DVA. I have a copy of an early edition.
> Can you start playing a show while it is transferring like a streaming replay?

THe answer to that depends on the computer.... For example I have
DVArchive running on two computers

1: Laptop. 366Mhz, Win-98se Wired lan (or wireless, my choice) Can
not stream and play at the same time (not enough Mhz)

2: Mini-Tower... 1.8Ghz win eXtra Painful. Wired lan (no choice)

Works as you desire, can play as it downloads, has the horsepower.


It can also stream back to the RTV fast enough for me to watch a show on
it's hard drive on the Television network in the house.

I think the laptop can do that too.. (can not recall if I tried) however
the laptop is 100% occupied doing it since it transfers a 1 hr low
(standard) quality show in about 58 minutes. Like I said, not enough
Mhz (Mini tower can grab medium quaility in less time)

Of course when it comes to Remote controls,,, RePlayTV has the world's
greatest

There is a handy dandy I/R Remote for when I'm in the same room

And DVArchive's Remote feature for when I'm in the same network (house)

And if I happen to be "elsewhere" and remember I really wished to record
a show tomorrow.... There is the myreplaytv web site

 

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John in Detroit wrote:

> Greg wrote:
>
>> OK thanks. I guess I have to revisit DVA. I have a copy of an early
>> edition.
>> Can you start playing a show while it is transferring like a streaming
>> replay?
>
>
> THe answer to that depends on the computer.... For example I have
> DVArchive running on two computers
>
> 1: Laptop. 366Mhz, Win-98se Wired lan (or wireless, my choice) Can
> not stream and play at the same time (not enough Mhz)
>
> 2: Mini-Tower... 1.8Ghz win eXtra Painful. Wired lan (no choice)
>
> Works as you desire, can play as it downloads, has the horsepower.
>
>
> It can also stream back to the RTV fast enough for me to watch a show on
> it's hard drive on the Television network in the house.
>
> I think the laptop can do that too.. (can not recall if I tried) however
> the laptop is 100% occupied doing it since it transfers a 1 hr low
> (standard) quality show in about 58 minutes. Like I said, not enough
> Mhz (Mini tower can grab medium quaility in less time)
>
> Of course when it comes to Remote controls,,, RePlayTV has the world's
> greatest
>
> There is a handy dandy I/R Remote for when I'm in the same room
>
> And DVArchive's Remote feature for when I'm in the same network (house)
>
> And if I happen to be "elsewhere" and remember I really wished to record
> a show tomorrow.... There is the myreplaytv web site

John

If you really want PVR heaven, enable the DVArchive web interface. That
is so over the top, it's incredible. Gerry Dupree has an incredible
program there that probably accounts for more sales than all of DNNA's
efforts combined.

 

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On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:07:25 -0400, Tony D <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

>John in Detroit wrote:
>
>> Greg wrote:
>>
>>> OK thanks. I guess I have to revisit DVA. I have a copy of an early
>>> edition.
>>> Can you start playing a show while it is transferring like a streaming
>>> replay?
>>
>>
>> THe answer to that depends on the computer.... For example I have
>> DVArchive running on two computers
>>
>> 1: Laptop. 366Mhz, Win-98se Wired lan (or wireless, my choice) Can
>> not stream and play at the same time (not enough Mhz)
>>
>> 2: Mini-Tower... 1.8Ghz win eXtra Painful. Wired lan (no choice)
>>
>> Works as you desire, can play as it downloads, has the horsepower.
>>
>>
>> It can also stream back to the RTV fast enough for me to watch a show on
>> it's hard drive on the Television network in the house.
>>
>> I think the laptop can do that too.. (can not recall if I tried) however
>> the laptop is 100% occupied doing it since it transfers a 1 hr low
>> (standard) quality show in about 58 minutes. Like I said, not enough
>> Mhz (Mini tower can grab medium quaility in less time)
>>
>> Of course when it comes to Remote controls,,, RePlayTV has the world's
>> greatest
>>
>> There is a handy dandy I/R Remote for when I'm in the same room
>>
>> And DVArchive's Remote feature for when I'm in the same network (house)
>>
>> And if I happen to be "elsewhere" and remember I really wished to record
>> a show tomorrow.... There is the myreplaytv web site
>
>John
>
>If you really want PVR heaven, enable the DVArchive web interface. That
>is so over the top, it's incredible. Gerry Dupree has an incredible
>program there that probably accounts for more sales than all of DNNA's
>efforts combined.

It certainly helped sell me on the Replay!


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On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:00:21 GMT, John in Detroit
<Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>Greg wrote:
>
>> OK thanks. I guess I have to revisit DVA. I have a copy of an early edition.
>> Can you start playing a show while it is transferring like a streaming replay?
>
>THe answer to that depends on the computer.... For example I have
>DVArchive running on two computers
>
>1: Laptop. 366Mhz, Win-98se Wired lan (or wireless, my choice) Can
>not stream and play at the same time (not enough Mhz)
>

I have a few computers that are approximately that speed (and laptops
are slower). DVA was very slow on those machines until I changed the
firewall to pass 239.255.255.250 as I mentioned before.

>2: Mini-Tower... 1.8Ghz win eXtra Painful. Wired lan (no choice)
>

My regular DVA server is running on a PIII 1.2GHz with 1.5GB RAM at
the moment (BTW, it's named "Mike").

>Works as you desire, can play as it downloads, has the horsepower.
>
>
>It can also stream back to the RTV fast enough for me to watch a show on
>it's hard drive on the Television network in the house.
>

I do that. My system is set up where I have 3 additional channels on
every TV in my house. Channel 70 allows watching the DVR (or DVD) from
any TV. Channels 72 & 74 are for security cameras. I use the Xantech
system for remore control. It's much more reliable than those IR/RF/IR
"pyramids".

>I think the laptop can do that too.. (can not recall if I tried) however
> the laptop is 100% occupied doing it since it transfers a 1 hr low
>(standard) quality show in about 58 minutes. Like I said, not enough
>Mhz (Mini tower can grab medium quaility in less time)
>

Try the 239.255.255.250 suggestion (uPnP address). It has made my
computer (running DVA) much more responsive. This is considered a
class D IP address. These are for local (not internet) use.

>Of course when it comes to Remote controls,,, RePlayTV has the world's
>greatest
>
>There is a handy dandy I/R Remote for when I'm in the same room
>

I have used an older design (that comes with 2xxx and 3xxx Replays)
before, and find the current one easier to use.

Note that the 55xx remote has a buttton marked "input", but it's the
same as the 5xxx "commercial advance" button. Input selection is one
thing that was better on the 2xxx and 3xxx Replays. Of course, you can
always use a dummy device. I select channel 1010 to use the input on
my Replay.

>And DVArchive's Remote feature for when I'm in the same network (house)
>

It lets you use the PC keyboard too. Of course, you still need to be
able to see the Replay screen.

>And if I happen to be "elsewhere" and remember I really wished to record
>a show tomorrow.... There is the myreplaytv web site

It's possible to make DVA's web interface usable from the internet,
but you may not want to for security reasons. Use a high, nonstandard
port number (maybe 29900?).

Talking about useful DVA features, don't forget the guide (improved in
DVA 3.1) that lets you schedule shows too. It's usable from any
computer on your network.

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On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:07:25 -0400, Tony D <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

>John in Detroit wrote:
>
>> Greg wrote:
>>
>>> OK thanks. I guess I have to revisit DVA. I have a copy of an early
>>> edition.
>>> Can you start playing a show while it is transferring like a streaming
>>> replay?
>>
>>
>> THe answer to that depends on the computer.... For example I have
>> DVArchive running on two computers
>>
>> 1: Laptop. 366Mhz, Win-98se Wired lan (or wireless, my choice) Can
>> not stream and play at the same time (not enough Mhz)
>>
>> 2: Mini-Tower... 1.8Ghz win eXtra Painful. Wired lan (no choice)
>>
>> Works as you desire, can play as it downloads, has the horsepower.
>>
>>
>> It can also stream back to the RTV fast enough for me to watch a show on
>> it's hard drive on the Television network in the house.
>>
>> I think the laptop can do that too.. (can not recall if I tried) however
>> the laptop is 100% occupied doing it since it transfers a 1 hr low
>> (standard) quality show in about 58 minutes. Like I said, not enough
>> Mhz (Mini tower can grab medium quaility in less time)
>>
>> Of course when it comes to Remote controls,,, RePlayTV has the world's
>> greatest
>>
>> There is a handy dandy I/R Remote for when I'm in the same room
>>
>> And DVArchive's Remote feature for when I'm in the same network (house)
>>
>> And if I happen to be "elsewhere" and remember I really wished to record
>> a show tomorrow.... There is the myreplaytv web site
>
>John
>
>If you really want PVR heaven, enable the DVArchive web interface. That
>is so over the top, it's incredible. Gerry Dupree has an incredible
>program there that probably accounts for more sales than all of DNNA's
>efforts combined.

Yes, it is.

Note that it helps to set it up so it uses the same channel numbers
the Replay(s) themselves use.

That is the television guide I use now (I look at it every morning). I
used to use ZAP2IT, but this is easier. It lets you schedule shows
from the same guide you're looking at.

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On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 09:41:13 -0500, Juan Hung Lo
<ask_me_for_it@I_dont_do_spam_at.all> wrote:

>On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:07:25 -0400, Tony D <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>John in Detroit wrote:
>>
>>> Greg wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK thanks. I guess I have to revisit DVA. I have a copy of an early
>>>> edition.
>>>> Can you start playing a show while it is transferring like a streaming
>>>> replay?
>>>
>>>
>>> THe answer to that depends on the computer.... For example I have
>>> DVArchive running on two computers
>>>
>>> 1: Laptop. 366Mhz, Win-98se Wired lan (or wireless, my choice) Can
>>> not stream and play at the same time (not enough Mhz)
>>>
>>> 2: Mini-Tower... 1.8Ghz win eXtra Painful. Wired lan (no choice)
>>>
>>> Works as you desire, can play as it downloads, has the horsepower.
>>>
>>>
>>> It can also stream back to the RTV fast enough for me to watch a show on
>>> it's hard drive on the Television network in the house.
>>>
>>> I think the laptop can do that too.. (can not recall if I tried) however
>>> the laptop is 100% occupied doing it since it transfers a 1 hr low
>>> (standard) quality show in about 58 minutes. Like I said, not enough
>>> Mhz (Mini tower can grab medium quaility in less time)
>>>
>>> Of course when it comes to Remote controls,,, RePlayTV has the world's
>>> greatest
>>>
>>> There is a handy dandy I/R Remote for when I'm in the same room
>>>
>>> And DVArchive's Remote feature for when I'm in the same network (house)
>>>
>>> And if I happen to be "elsewhere" and remember I really wished to record
>>> a show tomorrow.... There is the myreplaytv web site
>>
>>John
>>
>>If you really want PVR heaven, enable the DVArchive web interface. That
>>is so over the top, it's incredible. Gerry Dupree has an incredible
>>program there that probably accounts for more sales than all of DNNA's
>>efforts combined.
>
>It certainly helped sell me on the Replay!

I didn't know about DVA when I got my first 5xxx Replay, but I
probably would not have gotten a second and third 5xxx otherwise.

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On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:02:56 -0500, Mark Lloyd
<mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> wrote:

>On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 09:41:13 -0500, Juan Hung Lo
><ask_me_for_it@I_dont_do_spam_at.all> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:07:25 -0400, Tony D <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>>John in Detroit wrote:
>>>
>>>> Greg wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> OK thanks. I guess I have to revisit DVA. I have a copy of an early
>>>>> edition.
>>>>> Can you start playing a show while it is transferring like a streaming
>>>>> replay?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> THe answer to that depends on the computer.... For example I have
>>>> DVArchive running on two computers
>>>>
>>>> 1: Laptop. 366Mhz, Win-98se Wired lan (or wireless, my choice) Can
>>>> not stream and play at the same time (not enough Mhz)
>>>>
>>>> 2: Mini-Tower... 1.8Ghz win eXtra Painful. Wired lan (no choice)
>>>>
>>>> Works as you desire, can play as it downloads, has the horsepower.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It can also stream back to the RTV fast enough for me to watch a show on
>>>> it's hard drive on the Television network in the house.
>>>>
>>>> I think the laptop can do that too.. (can not recall if I tried) however
>>>> the laptop is 100% occupied doing it since it transfers a 1 hr low
>>>> (standard) quality show in about 58 minutes. Like I said, not enough
>>>> Mhz (Mini tower can grab medium quaility in less time)
>>>>
>>>> Of course when it comes to Remote controls,,, RePlayTV has the world's
>>>> greatest
>>>>
>>>> There is a handy dandy I/R Remote for when I'm in the same room
>>>>
>>>> And DVArchive's Remote feature for when I'm in the same network (house)
>>>>
>>>> And if I happen to be "elsewhere" and remember I really wished to record
>>>> a show tomorrow.... There is the myreplaytv web site
>>>
>>>John
>>>
>>>If you really want PVR heaven, enable the DVArchive web interface. That
>>>is so over the top, it's incredible. Gerry Dupree has an incredible
>>>program there that probably accounts for more sales than all of DNNA's
>>>efforts combined.
>>
>>It certainly helped sell me on the Replay!
>
>I didn't know about DVA when I got my first 5xxx Replay, but I
>probably would not have gotten a second and third 5xxx otherwise.

I only knew because I followed you here and started reading before I
made my first purchase. ;>)


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[Greg]

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>Gerry Dupree has an incredible
>program there that probably accounts for more sales than all of DNNA's
>efforts combined.

Has DNNA/Sonic Blue/RTV made ANY effort at all?
I have NEVER seen an RTV ad anywhere. The only reason I have mine in the first
place was my wife saw it at COSTCO on sale and thought it looked interesting. I
had never heard of it. Nobody I tell about mine has ever heard of it.
I end up saying it is a Tivo and they have a vague notion about what it does.

 

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On 12 Oct 2004 15:47:03 GMT, gfretwell@aol.com (Greg) wrote:

>>Gerry Dupree has an incredible
>>program there that probably accounts for more sales than all of DNNA's
>>efforts combined.
>
>Has DNNA/Sonic Blue/RTV made ANY effort at all?
>I have NEVER seen an RTV ad anywhere. The only reason I have mine in the first
>place was my wife saw it at COSTCO on sale and thought it looked interesting. I
>had never heard of it. Nobody I tell about mine has ever heard of it.
>I end up saying it is a Tivo and they have a vague notion about what it does.

I first found out about Replay over 5 years ago, when I saw a magazine
article comparing Replay to TiVo. Replay looked better. I found even
more advantages after getting one (even though the v1 software was
limited compared to what we have now).

I wanted such a device (for the purpose of being able to control live
TV) for more than 10 years before that, after liking being able to do
the same thing when playing a tape.

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Greg wrote:

>>Gerry Dupree has an incredible
>>program there that probably accounts for more sales than all of DNNA's
>>efforts combined.
>
>
> Has DNNA/Sonic Blue/RTV made ANY effort at all?
> I have NEVER seen an RTV ad anywhere. The only reason I have mine in the first
> place was my wife saw it at COSTCO on sale and thought it looked interesting. I
> had never heard of it. Nobody I tell about mine has ever heard of it.
> I end up saying it is a Tivo and they have a vague notion about what it does.
>

Replays are usually found in more sophisticated setups and multi-unit
installations. Replay used to advertize extensively in press geared to
this market and on the radio. DNNA is geared completely to this market
and it would be senseless to mass market now that the coming products
are Denon grade and Denon priced.

 

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>I wanted such a device (for the purpose of being able to control live
>TV) for more than 10 years before that, after liking being able to do
>the same thing when playing a tape.
>

I started playing with this stuff in 1975 when I got my first Beta SL7200. A
year later I got a second one. You can almost do the same things with 2 tape
machines. Start #1 recording at the beginning of the show. A discrete interval
later, during a commercial, you start machine 2. Watch 1 skipping commercials
until you get to the end of the tape, then start watching 2 while you rewind
and start recording on 1 again. It is very cumbersome but virtually the same
result as what you have with RTV. You still have the problem of running out of
cached show if you start watching too soon and the tape has the rewind latency
problem. As long as the commercial breaks are long enough it still works.
I basically used tape the same way I use RTV now, just as a time shifter. The
RTV is a lot easier tho.
I still prefer the "express record" features of tape to the RTV manual record
function tho. It is a pain in the ass if you just want an RTV to start
recording what you see right now without going through the guide.

 

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On 12 Oct 2004 17:33:35 GMT, gfretwell@aol.com (Greg) wrote:

>>I wanted such a device (for the purpose of being able to control live
>>TV) for more than 10 years before that, after liking being able to do
>>the same thing when playing a tape.
>>
>
>I started playing with this stuff in 1975 when I got my first Beta SL7200. A
>year later I got a second one. You can almost do the same things with 2 tape
>machines. Start #1 recording at the beginning of the show. A discrete interval
>later, during a commercial, you start machine 2. Watch 1 skipping commercials
>until you get to the end of the tape, then start watching 2 while you rewind
>and start recording on 1 again. It is very cumbersome but virtually the same
>result as what you have with RTV. You still have the problem of running out of
>cached show if you start watching too soon and the tape has the rewind latency
>problem.

The latency is one of the advantages of the Replay. I even use it for
watching tapes.

> As long as the commercial breaks are long enough it still works.
>I basically used tape the same way I use RTV now, just as a time shifter. The
>RTV is a lot easier tho.
>I still prefer the "express record" features of tape to the RTV manual record
>function tho. It is a pain in the ass if you just want an RTV to start
>recording what you see right now without going through the guide.

And now (on the Replay) there's theme channels, where you just specify
the NAME of what you want. You never need to know when shows are
boradcast, or on what channel.

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