Studio Projects C4/Oktava MK012

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Has anybody done an A/B comparison of these mics? I'm looking for opinions
from those who have used both, and especially those who have compared them
side-by-side.

BTW: I'm primarily looking at them for L/R drum overheads (rock kit).

Thanks.


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Bob Savage <bsavage@blacoxbla.net> wrote:
>Has anybody done an A/B comparison of these mics? I'm looking for opinions
>from those who have used both, and especially those who have compared them
>side-by-side.

Both of them are sufficiently inconsistent that comparisons might not be
very useful unless they are comparing the exact microphones you are looking
at.
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"Scott Dorsey" <kludge@panix.com> wrote in message
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> Both of them are sufficiently inconsistent that comparisons might not be
> very useful unless they are comparing the exact microphones you are
looking
> at.

hahaha, oh man, that's what I was afraid of! Thanks Scott.

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Scott Dorsey wrote:
> Both of them are sufficiently inconsistent that comparisons might not
be
> very useful unless they are comparing the exact microphones you are
looking
> at.


even the 012's from soundroom ?

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"Scott Dorsey" <kludge@panix.com> wrote in message
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> Both of them are sufficiently inconsistent that comparisons might not be
> very useful unless they are comparing the exact microphones you are
looking
> at.

And I'm guessing the MXL Marshall 991 is a total pile, considering the
price? Yeah, I'm looking to get out as cheaply as possible, at least for
now, but without dealing with dung for quality.

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Just out of curiousity Scott, how many C4's have you compared to
conclude that they are "sufficiently inconsistent"?

Brent Casey

 

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Thaks! I own a pair!

Sidhu

 

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Bob Savage wrote:
> "Scott Dorsey" <kludge@panix.com> wrote in message
> news:d5aov7$maf$1@panix2.panix.com...
> > Both of them are sufficiently inconsistent that comparisons might
not be
> > very useful unless they are comparing the exact microphones you are
> looking
> > at.
>
> And I'm guessing the MXL Marshall 991 is a total pile, considering
the
> price? Yeah, I'm looking to get out as cheaply as possible, at least
for
> now, but without dealing with dung for quality.


One mic that i have seen recomended by very reliable sources (ppl. who
usually bitch bout anything under a thousand USD ;-) chek it out :

http/www.kelaudio.com/hm1.html


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"Sidhu" <nitinsidhu@indiatimes.com> wrote in message
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> One mic that i have seen recomended by very reliable sources (ppl. who
> usually bitch bout anything under a thousand USD ;-) chek it out :
>
> http/www.kelaudio.com/hm1.html

Thanks for the tip.

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Sidhu <nitinsidhu@indiatimes.com> wrote:
>Scott Dorsey wrote:
>> Both of them are sufficiently inconsistent that comparisons might not
>be
>> very useful unless they are comparing the exact microphones you are
>looking
>> at.
>
>even the 012's from soundroom ?

No, the 012s from the Sound Room are pretty consistent.
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<Brent@pmiaudio.com> wrote:
>Just out of curiousity Scott, how many C4's have you compared to
>conclude that they are "sufficiently inconsistent"?

I've only looked over a handful of the things, probably around five or six,
so my experience is a lot smaller than the Oktavas. And the inconsistencies
I saw seemed all to be mechanical issues, unlike the Oktavas which have
both mechanical and electronic consistency problems.

People should spend more time going out and listening to mikes. If you
like what it sounds like, buy it. If you don't, go on to the next one.
Time spent listening is never wasted.
--scott

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"Scott Dorsey" <kludge@panix.com> wrote in message
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> People should spend more time going out and listening to mikes. If you
> like what it sounds like, buy it. If you don't, go on to the next one.
> Time spent listening is never wasted.

This brings up another question. How do you go about testing a mic in the
store? Even if I brought it home, I don't have a drum kit to test with, and
not being one who's ever spent time listening to and comparing mics, what do
I need to be listening for?

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In article <km6ee.1054$eU.830@fed1read07> bsavage@blacoxbla.net writes:

> And I'm guessing the MXL Marshall 991 is a total pile, considering the
> price?


I don't have any drums to put it over, but I have a hard time telling
an MXL 991 from a KM84 when they're about 16 inches away from a banjo.
Most of the difference I hear is in the sound of the room.

I was impressed.

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"Mike Rivers" <mrivers@d-and-d.com> wrote in message
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> I don't have any drums to put it over, but I have a hard time telling
> an MXL 991 from a KM84 when they're about 16 inches away from a banjo.
> Most of the difference I hear is in the sound of the room.
>
> I was impressed.

Interesting, thanks Mike.

Anybody else have an opinion on the MXL 991?

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Studio project are VERY bright and can handle very high SPL....
I'd go for the 012 so I could use them for many other things such as
acoustic gtrs...


"Bob Savage" <bsavage@blacoxbla.net> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> Has anybody done an A/B comparison of these mics? I'm looking for
opinions
> from those who have used both, and especially those who have compared them
> side-by-side.
>
> BTW: I'm primarily looking at them for L/R drum overheads (rock kit).
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> --
> http/www.bobsavage.net
>
>

 

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Federico wrote:

> Studio project are VERY bright and can handle very high SPL....
> I'd go for the 012 so I could use them for many other things such as
> acoustic gtrs...

The SP 04's I have are not overly bright or sibilant. They sound great on
acoustic guitars here at my studio. I really like them on Classical Guitars
too.


PapaNate

 

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Bob Savage wrote:

> "Scott Dorsey" <kludge@panix.com> wrote in message
> news:d5aov7$maf$1@panix2.panix.com...
>
>>Both of them are sufficiently inconsistent that comparisons might not be
>>very useful unless they are comparing the exact microphones you are
>
> looking
>
>>at.
>
>
> And I'm guessing the MXL Marshall 991 is a total pile, considering the
> price? Yeah, I'm looking to get out as cheaply as possible, at least for
> now, but without dealing with dung for quality.
>

Check out a pair of Crown CM700's. Sometimes you can pick up a couple
for less than $300 on ebay. Here's a link and good luck.
http/www.wwbw.com/Crown-CM700-Cardioid-Condenser-Microphone-i84613.music?source=dealtime

Jim

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On Wed, 4 May 2005 12:02:24 -0400, Bob Savage wrote
(in article <km6ee.1054$eU.830@fed1read07>):

> "Scott Dorsey" <kludge@panix.com> wrote in message
> news:d5aov7$maf$1@panix2.panix.com...
>> Both of them are sufficiently inconsistent that comparisons might not be
>> very useful unless they are comparing the exact microphones you are
> looking
>> at.
>
> And I'm guessing the MXL Marshall 991 is a total pile, considering the
> price? Yeah, I'm looking to get out as cheaply as possible, at least for
> now, but without dealing with dung for quality.
>
>

AT 2020

Ty Ford



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"Ty Ford" <tyreeford@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> AT 2020

Ty,

Between the AT 2020 and the MK020, which would you use for overheads if the
price were the same?

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U¿ytkownik "Bob Savage" <bsavage@blacoxbla.net> napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
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> Has anybody done an A/B comparison of these mics? I'm looking for
opinions
> from those who have used both, and especially those who have compared them
> side-by-side.
>
> BTW: I'm primarily looking at them for L/R drum overheads (rock kit).
>

* Well - im recording drums using SP C4, and these are very fine mics. Used
with
ORTF technique on the rock drum kit gives me very decent rock sound. I
think -
without testing it, its very difficult to find the right one. BUT - you cant
go wrong with
a (checked earlier) C4 or 012. I would go with the C4. Used on the accoustic
guitar,
electric, bass and vocals - nice effects.

keep on rockin'