subwoofer hum

[JTS]

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I have a subwoofer that hums when it is connected to my A/V amplifier.
Both unitw were repaired recently, yet the problem persists. I am at
a loss. The solid state amplifiers were replaced in the Pioneer
SA-HE200 amplifier. Only the powered subwoofer is effected; the other
speakers (front, satellite, center) function well. The amplifier in
the powered subwoofer was just replaced as well. I installed the unit
myself and hooked it up as KLH instructed. The subwoofer is an E-10D,
part of the plat-6 system. The interconnect cable is shielded and
uses gold plated RCA connectors. The problem is the same with the
unshielded cable delivered with the speakers. What do I try next?
BTW, music does play through the subwoofer, but the hum is louder. I
can also change the hum volume by playing with the subwoofer gain.

 

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In article <a6aaf71f.0410201702.51288c36@posting.google.com>, jts
<sanders_family1@comcast.net> wrote:

> I have a subwoofer that hums when it is connected to my A/V amplifier.
> Both unitw were repaired recently, yet the problem persists. I am at
> a loss. The solid state amplifiers were replaced in the Pioneer
> SA-HE200 amplifier. Only the powered subwoofer is effected; the other
> speakers (front, satellite, center) function well. The amplifier in
> the powered subwoofer was just replaced as well. I installed the unit
> myself and hooked it up as KLH instructed. The subwoofer is an E-10D,
> part of the plat-6 system. The interconnect cable is shielded and
> uses gold plated RCA connectors. The problem is the same with the
> unshielded cable delivered with the speakers. What do I try next?
> BTW, music does play through the subwoofer, but the hum is louder. I
> can also change the hum volume by playing with the subwoofer gain.

1. Does the subwoofer hum when there is no cable attached to it?
This will help localize if the problem is in the subwoofer itself,
or if it is picking up the noise from the receiver.

2. Try playing with the power cord. Flip the plug 180 degrees if
it will allow. Also, try plugging the subwoofer and receiver into
the same outlet (or same power strip). Try a different outlet,
different circuit, and try flipping the plug on the receiver. You
might have a noisey circuit, bad ground, mis-wired outlet, or a
ground loop.

-john-

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jts wrote:

> I have a subwoofer that hums when it is connected to my A/V amplifier.
> Both unitw were repaired recently, yet the problem persists. I am at
> a loss. The solid state amplifiers were replaced in the Pioneer
> SA-HE200 amplifier. Only the powered subwoofer is effected; the other
> speakers (front, satellite, center) function well. The amplifier in
> the powered subwoofer was just replaced as well. I installed the unit
> myself and hooked it up as KLH instructed. The subwoofer is an E-10D,
> part of the plat-6 system. The interconnect cable is shielded and
> uses gold plated RCA connectors. The problem is the same with the
> unshielded cable delivered with the speakers. What do I try next?
> BTW, music does play through the subwoofer, but the hum is louder. I
> can also change the hum volume by playing with the subwoofer gain.

You have a cable telly connection don't you?

If yes, this is a not exactly unknown problem, get a isolating transformer
for the cable telly connection, problem (most likely) solved.

The problem is a ground loop caused by the mains ground being at a different
potential to the ground connection used by the cable TV connection. As the
rest of your system, most likely has 2 core mains leads it does not hum.
The subwoofer (I am betting) has a 3 core mains lead and the earth
connection here allows loop current to flow thru the screens of the audio
cables giving rise to your hum.

The other fix (which someone will probably suggest) is to remove the ground
pin on the subwoofer power cord, don't do this it is there for a safety
reason!

Just a guess.

Regards, Dan.

 

[JTS]

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>
> You have a cable telly connection don't you?

Yes.

>
> If yes, this is a not exactly unknown problem, get a isolating transformer
> for the cable telly connection, problem (most likely) solved.
>
> The problem is a ground loop caused by the mains ground being at a different
> potential to the ground connection used by the cable TV connection. As the
> rest of your system, most likely has 2 core mains leads it does not hum.
> The subwoofer (I am betting) has a 3 core mains lead and the earth
> connection here allows loop current to flow thru the screens of the audio
> cables giving rise to your hum.

It's after 10PM here, and I can't get an isolation tranformer tonight.
It did occur to me that I used to plug the subwoofer directly into
the wall outlet. Yesterday I plugged it into an outlet in the power
strip labelled "transformer". The television is also plugged into
another transformer outlet. When I moved the subwoofer to a
non-transformer recepticle on the same power strip, the hum
disappeared. Your suggestion made me think about how I might alter
the circuit to reduce the ground loop interference, and it worked.
Thanks, Dan.

Jack

 

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HOW I FIXED MY SUBWOOFER HUM SIMPLE

I TRIED EVERYTHING,DISCONNECTED ALL THE POWE PLUGS TO ALL MY EQUIPMENT ONE AT A TIME NO HELP.
DISCONNECT SATELIT FEED NO HELP.

ATTACHED TO WIRE A SCREW ON THE BACK OF SUBWOOFER AND TOUCHED IT TO A OUTSIDE ANTENNA FEED TAHT I KNEW WAS GROUNDED AND THE HUM IS 100% GONE.

HOPE THIS WILL HELP EVERYONE