UK Piracy Bill Could Kill Public WiFi Hotspots

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rhino13

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This is the same thing as sueing ISPs for their user's actions. Only perhaps less reasonable, because the ISPs have tools in place to monitor the bandwidth useage of each subscriber. Are pubs going to hire a WiFi wench to monitor who needs to get "cut off" from the net?
 

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No good deed goes unpunished.
Why stop there? Sue the government for providing roads used by drunk drivers. They are just as responsible as the cafe owner is for someone misusing a hot spot.
 

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Wifi clearly can be used for file sharing. File sharing is bad. Let's ban Wifi.
Guns can be used to kill. Killing is bad. Let's ban Guns.
Cars can be used to kill. Killing is bad. Let's ban Cars.
Wood can be used to make buildings that collapse. Building collapses are bad. Let's ban wood.
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Humans are mean to each other. Being mean is bad. Let's ban Humans.
 

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Talk about screwing the law abiding citizens in the butt. And really whats the point, do the corporations that wrote this law think it will give them more business, ABSOLUTELY NOT, some in fact will go bankrupt and maybe even out of business (hopefully). Its a self destructive law. Companies get so greedy that they won't listen to reason. Granted its the companies goal to make as much money as possible but when they try to limit everybody to stop a very few then everybody gets mad and stops buying the product that was probably no good anyway (most movies and almost all music that has come out recently. Don't believe me go look at the titles of some rap songs.)
 

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One more option/luxury removed because of theives ... errr the Robin Hoods of the world, actually you people doing the stealing (err Pirates) that want something for nothing -- you don't give back to anyone ... you just take and take and take and then come up with some lame justification that Corprations are greedy - oh brother.

If you want communism, then go be a communist as communism has failed over and over and over again (check your history lessons junior) -- in every aspect of life. Why, because a LOT of people want something for nothing and are just lazy.

You want something, buy it! Plain and simple. You can't afford it, then you can't have it. Oh there's a concept, you can't have something ... OMG the world is gonna come to an end.

 

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Would it be so hard to make hotspots require some kind of sign-in for a temporary password? The people who have been a problem before won't get access again, that simple. Have the public spots apply 3-strike.
 

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[citation][nom]redplanet_returns[/nom]how old are the politicians that are running today's major countries these days? 12?[/citation]
It's not how old they are, it's how much their political campaigns are being funded by RIAA, MPAA, IFKI and other "corporate" persons who think they rule the world.
 

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[citation][nom]megamanx00[/nom]Foolish fools. Surrendering freedom to please overzealous and greedy corporations.[/citation]
I thought that's the purpose of the government, no? Why would they look after people's interest when they can fill their pockets from these greedy corporations?
 

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this is bs and it is caused by the asshole hollywood crew RIAA MPAA ETC.
I say boycott these asses and hurt them good.I only buy used movies,no corporate music,and never go to a theater.
they are not getting any cash out of me.
and i never bought nor will i buy any music from any large label/riaaa krud.
 

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If you want to fight this, start boycotting products from RIAA, MPAA and their equivalents in other countries. Hey, it worked against StarForce. Alternatively, develop anonymous encrypted P2P so hopefully they'll figure they can't do anything by force and will have to adjust their business models instead of dismantling the Internet.
 

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This law and all others like are to protect capitalism, to protect peoples ability to get money from other people for providing goods or services. This leads to the big powerful corporations who have the politicians in their collective back pockets being able to make sure they can squeeze every last dollar out of us all. If I want something I buy it, I don't file share, pirate or anything else, never will. I also don't trust public networks because I don't want hackers trying to crack into my PC, however, locking everything down so every last red cent of a persons income goes to one or more ISP, software companies, IP consortia is bat s***.
 

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I like Heraisu's idea. Criminals don't like to work in the light. Take the anonymity out of the equation, reveal who is doing the filesharing, and we'll just see how much pirating people are still willing to do when everyone can see that it's them.

I see a business opportunity in this: a central server that these hotspots use to authenticate users before granting access, and that also logs all traffic. To sign up, you have to swipe a ccard like you do to check in at the airport. No charge (or maybe there is) - just identity verification. Then, as you use your computer this site knows what you're doing and records it. If you steal someone's IP, it knows. If you browse kiddie porn, it knows. If you enable a student's web cam (well, you get the idea).

Several such companies could co-exist, getting paid by record companies to say who's downloading, and by police for other reasons. And because (a) this is on a public computer network which everyone knows is open for observation, and (b) the user would be asked to agree to this observation as a term of use with specific limitations (e.g. only to be used to identify law-breaking activities), it is done with the user's consent.

This could be taken a step further by separating the actual identities (e.g. name, etc.) from the identifying info (e.g. some ID number or CC number), so that users performing legal activities would not have their privacy compromised.
 

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[citation][nom]TeraMedia[/nom]I like Heraisu's idea. Criminals don't like to work in the light. Take the anonymity out of the equation, reveal who is doing the filesharing, and we'll just see how much pirating people are still willing to do when everyone can see that it's them.I see a business opportunity in this: a central server that these hotspots use to authenticate users before granting access, and that also logs all traffic. To sign up, you have to swipe a ccard like you do to check in at the airport. No charge (or maybe there is) - just identity verification. Then, as you use your computer this site knows what you're doing and records it. If you steal someone's IP, it knows. If you browse kiddie porn, it knows. If you enable a student's web cam (well, you get the idea).Several such companies could co-exist, getting paid by record companies to say who's downloading, and by police for other reasons. And because (a) this is on a public computer network which everyone knows is open for observation, and (b) the user would be asked to agree to this observation as a term of use with specific limitations (e.g. only to be used to identify law-breaking activities), it is done with the user's consent.This could be taken a step further by separating the actual identities (e.g. name, etc.) from the identifying info (e.g. some ID number or CC number), so that users performing legal activities would not have their privacy compromised.[/citation]

How about no and go fuck yourself. No one has the right to know what I am doing on my personal computer. Ever. Privacy is far more important than people's 'right to know" and it is high time that other people realize this.

I do not care if someone is downloading digital content without paying for it; that is not my problem. I refuse to give up my privacy so that a few digital thieves can be caught. I would not give up my firearms because other people use a firearm to commit crimes.
 

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[citation][nom]V8VENOM[/nom]You want something, buy it! Plain and simple. You can't afford it, then you can't have it. Oh there's a concept, you can't have something ... OMG the world is gonna come to an end.[/citation]


Problem with that is, if people want something but can't afford it they will find another way to get it... this will NEVER change. People will always find a way to get what they want!

Why should I go without just because I can't afford something? While the people selling it are living the high life and getting rich of the poor man.
 
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