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As much as I want this company to succeed, I had hoped it would get
better. Perhaps my experience is unique...regardless, here is a
transcript of my short, happy, but ultimately tragic experience with
Voom...


Sent: Tue 6/22/2004 10:25 PM
Subject: Voom Satellite
I thought I would share a humorous (but ultimately tragic) story
concerning VOOM. As you know, I have been trying desperately to get
VOOM to TAKE money from my account. Tonight, I called them for the
seventh time. I should note that this is only the third time which I
have actually got to talk with a live person. On attempts 3 through 6,
I was on hold for so long that THEIR system disconnected me. I can
tell you from experience that there is very little that is more
frustrating than that. Anyhow, after about a 10-15 minute wait (I have
a cordless phone and headset; which is a sanity saver for long hold
times), I tell the representative that they have never successfully
charged my account for service and that I have unsuccessfully
attempted to call about the issue on six other occasions.
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Representative: "I have bad news, the card has been rejected. You owe
us four months in charges."

Me: "Yeah, that is what I am calling about. Can you verify the account
information?"

"All we can see is the last four digits. Do you have the credit card?"

"Yeah, but it is a bank check card. It has a VISA logo though." <- In
hindsight, this was WAY too much information

"Ah-ha, that's the problem, it has to be a REAL credit card."

"Uhm, I thought it was."

"No, do you have another credit card that we can use"

"No, this is the only card I have, but I have bank bill pay, I will
log on and have the bank send you a check."

"No, sorry, we only accept credit cards. <awkward silence> Let me
check with my supervisor. <on hold> Okay, we are going to reenter the
check card information. Your expiration date is 11...?"

"11/04"

"Do you mean 11/31/04?"

"Well it says just 11/04 on the card, but I imagine that means it is
good until the end of the month."

"Yeah, I think it is 11/31/04. <background sound of supervisor saying
DON'T enter the day> Oh, apparently that may have been the initial
problem. 11/04"

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How much do you want to bet that this still isn't corrected.


Sent: Fri 7/2/2004 5:56 PM
Subject: RE: Voom Satellite
I was wrong. They debited my account last night...twice...each time
for 4 months of service. Holy cow.


Sent: Fri 7/2/2004 6:06 PM
Subject: RE: Voom Satellite
They told me that it is because I use a debit card. This has to be
the dumbest thing I have ever heard. "For some reason when customers
use a debit card it charges twice." WHAT?!? I had no recourse except
to say that I will have to call my bank tomorrow.


Sent: Fri 7/2/2004 6:14 PM
Subject: RE: Voom Satellite
I canceled. I asked to talk with a manager about this, was put on
hold and then the operator came back and told me that the manager
said, "He was too busy now and that he would basically say the same
thing.". I told her to get her manager now.
 
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"veritechflyer" <rwooden@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:1a2c4521.0407022040.39e5642@posting.google.com...
> As much as I want this company to succeed, I had hoped it would get
> better. Perhaps my experience is unique...regardless, here is a
> transcript of my short, happy, but ultimately tragic experience with
> Voom...
>
>
> Sent: Tue 6/22/2004 10:25 PM
> Subject: Voom Satellite
> I thought I would share a humorous (but ultimately tragic) story
> concerning VOOM. As you know, I have been trying desperately to get
> VOOM to TAKE money from my account. Tonight, I called them for the
> seventh time. I should note that this is only the third time which I
> have actually got to talk with a live person. On attempts 3 through 6,
> I was on hold for so long that THEIR system disconnected me. I can
> tell you from experience that there is very little that is more
> frustrating than that. Anyhow, after about a 10-15 minute wait (I have
> a cordless phone and headset; which is a sanity saver for long hold
> times), I tell the representative that they have never successfully
> charged my account for service and that I have unsuccessfully
> attempted to call about the issue on six other occasions.

<snipped>

I got a 500 limit credit card just so I could subscribe to VOOM. VOOM
almost lost us too because we too tried to use our debit card. We had the
opposite problem, four hits on the checking account each month. At $100 a
month programming cost, the extra $300 each month got a little expensive
month after month and a little too much too take.

VOOM did call us last night though... they asked if we'd be willing to get a
35 inch oblong dish to get 26 additional HDTV channels... It also provided
us with the opportunity to express disappointment with the billing
problems...

We wanted to add another receiver since we got a new HDTV in our bedroom.
Again, there was an issue with billing and billing dates and to which
account we are currently using... that 500 CC. They definitely need a new
accounts receivable manager who has extensive retail work history. We
gave up for now on that second receiver.

I hope someone from high up from VOOM reads this newsgroup and takes this
seriously...

Deborah Proctor
maraskywalker@earthlink.net
 
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Within these hallowed halls, veritechflyer of <rwooden@bellsouth.net>
added the following to the collective conscience:
> As much as I want this company to succeed, I had hoped it would get
> better. Perhaps my experience is unique...regardless, here is a
> transcript of my short, happy, but ultimately tragic experience with
> Voom...
>
>
Read and understood.

I don't care how good the service is, they can broadcast 500 channels in
High Definition and I'd still wouldn't deal with them.

Not even if they have a magic box that can convert everything to pristine
HD, NO WAY!

Just reading your post has put me off them, I couldn't even imagine if I had
to deal with such ignorance!

Just IMHO, as always. ;-)
 
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>
>"Yeah, but it is a bank check card. It has a VISA logo though." <- In
>hindsight, this was WAY too much information
>
>"Ah-ha, that's the problem, it has to be a REAL credit card."
>
I don't know how many times I've heard this from venders. Just ignore
it and use the card like a credit card. In other words forget your
card has a PIN. Run it thru as a credit card. The money will come
out of your account just the same.
 
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"Dr.Needles" <Dr.Needles@pins.com> wrote in message
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>
>>
>>"Yeah, but it is a bank check card. It has a VISA logo though." <- In
>>hindsight, this was WAY too much information
>>
>>"Ah-ha, that's the problem, it has to be a REAL credit card."
>>
> I don't know how many times I've heard this from venders. Just ignore
> it and use the card like a credit card. In other words forget your
> card has a PIN. Run it thru as a credit card. The money will come
> out of your account just the same.

NEVER tell the vendor that your card is a Visa Check card and you won't have
an issue.
 

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"veritechflyer" <rwooden@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:1a2c4521.0407022040.39e5642@posting.google.com...
> As much as I want this company to succeed, I had hoped it would get
> better. Perhaps my experience is unique...regardless, here is a
> transcript of my short, happy, but ultimately tragic experience with
> Voom...
>
>
> Sent: Tue 6/22/2004 10:25 PM
> Subject: Voom Satellite
> I thought I would share a humorous (but ultimately tragic) story
> concerning VOOM. As you know, I have been trying desperately to get
> VOOM to TAKE money from my account. Tonight, I called them for the
> seventh time. I should note that this is only the third time which I
> have actually got to talk with a live person. On attempts 3 through 6,
> I was on hold for so long that THEIR system disconnected me. I can
> tell you from experience that there is very little that is more
> frustrating than that. Anyhow, after about a 10-15 minute wait (I have
> a cordless phone and headset; which is a sanity saver for long hold
> times), I tell the representative that they have never successfully
> charged my account for service and that I have unsuccessfully
> attempted to call about the issue on six other occasions.
> ------------
>
> Representative: "I have bad news, the card has been rejected. You owe
> us four months in charges."
>
> Me: "Yeah, that is what I am calling about. Can you verify the account
> information?"
>
> "All we can see is the last four digits. Do you have the credit card?"
>
> "Yeah, but it is a bank check card. It has a VISA logo though." <- In
> hindsight, this was WAY too much information
>
> "Ah-ha, that's the problem, it has to be a REAL credit card."
>
> "Uhm, I thought it was."
>
> "No, do you have another credit card that we can use"
>
> "No, this is the only card I have, but I have bank bill pay, I will
> log on and have the bank send you a check."
>
> "No, sorry, we only accept credit cards. <awkward silence> Let me
> check with my supervisor. <on hold> Okay, we are going to reenter the
> check card information. Your expiration date is 11...?"
>
> "11/04"
>
> "Do you mean 11/31/04?"
>
> "Well it says just 11/04 on the card, but I imagine that means it is
> good until the end of the month."
>
> "Yeah, I think it is 11/31/04. <background sound of supervisor saying
> DON'T enter the day> Oh, apparently that may have been the initial
> problem. 11/04"
>
> -----------
> How much do you want to bet that this still isn't corrected.
>
>
> Sent: Fri 7/2/2004 5:56 PM
> Subject: RE: Voom Satellite
> I was wrong. They debited my account last night...twice...each time
> for 4 months of service. Holy cow.
>
>
> Sent: Fri 7/2/2004 6:06 PM
> Subject: RE: Voom Satellite
> They told me that it is because I use a debit card. This has to be
> the dumbest thing I have ever heard. "For some reason when customers
> use a debit card it charges twice." WHAT?!? I had no recourse except
> to say that I will have to call my bank tomorrow.
>
>
> Sent: Fri 7/2/2004 6:14 PM
> Subject: RE: Voom Satellite
> I canceled. I asked to talk with a manager about this, was put on
> hold and then the operator came back and told me that the manager
> said, "He was too busy now and that he would basically say the same
> thing.". I told her to get her manager now.
>


WOW !!!

I read all the posts. My experience has been the complete opposite. Also,
when I signed on with VOOM they specifically told me I could not use a
Debit/Credit Card and that it had to be a Credit Card only. Using a Credit
Card, as they said I had to, I have had no billing problems and no service
interruption. I wish I could say the same about Dish Network for the
service interruption. There's is always giving me hell.

Later,

Duke
 
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Within these hallowed halls, Charles Tomaras of <tomaras@tomaras.com>
added the following to the collective conscience:
> "Dr.Needles" <Dr.Needles@pins.com> wrote in message
> news:2nmee0du3jo3c08me3s8u4nn9kuebmidt9@4ax.com...
>>
>>>
>>> "Yeah, but it is a bank check card. It has a VISA logo though." <-
>>> In hindsight, this was WAY too much information
>>>
>>> "Ah-ha, that's the problem, it has to be a REAL credit card."
>>>
>> I don't know how many times I've heard this from venders. Just
>> ignore it and use the card like a credit card. In other words
>> forget your card has a PIN. Run it thru as a credit card. The
>> money will come out of your account just the same.
>
> NEVER tell the vendor that your card is a Visa Check card and you
> won't have an issue.

Hat trick, I'm in complete agreement with my fellow Visa users. Yesterday I
bought my niece a graduation present and paid for it with my Bank of America
Visa check card. I told the counter person it was a credit card and there
were no questions asked. I also buy gas this same way with no problems.

If this is how Voom works they should re-name in honor of their fate, DOOM!

IMHO ;-)
 
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On 2 Jul 2004 21:40:39 -0700, rwooden@bellsouth.net (veritechflyer)
wrote:

>As much as I want this company to succeed, I had hoped it would get
>better. Perhaps my experience is unique...regardless, here is a
>transcript of my short, happy, but ultimately tragic experience with
>Voom...
>
=snip-

>"No, sorry, we only accept credit cards. <awkward silence> Let me
>check with my supervisor. <on hold> Okay, we are going to reenter the
>check card information. Your expiration date is 11...?"
>
>"11/04"
>
>"Do you mean 11/31/04?"
>
>"Well it says just 11/04 on the card, but I imagine that means it is
>good until the end of the month."
>
>"Yeah, I think it is 11/31/04. <background sound of supervisor saying
>DON'T enter the day> Oh, apparently that may have been the initial
>problem. 11/04"
>
>-----------
>How much do you want to bet that this still isn't corrected.
>
=snip-

You're actually very lucky. here in FL November is really screwed up.
We only have 30 days in it. Even if its a leap year.

Thats why our elections are so messed up, and why the Nov 04 election
has already been recorded as Bush/Cheney winning FL with over 200,000
votes by the Supreme Court!.