Yoghurt drinks in an IPAQ

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Hi there,

I've had a bit of an unfortuante incident with a yoghurt type drink in
my handbag - where my IPAQ 2200 was. I thought that it had only
reached the very top surface of the PDA, and it turned on happily to
start with, but then i realised that the bit where the stylus is
stored was filled with yoghurt-y gunk. Net result is that the thing
wont turn on anymore, and i can see that there is gunk behind the
power button and the "itask" button at the right hand side.

Anybody know if this is likely to be rescuable? And anywhere in the
UK that might be able to do it, I'm guessing its not something i'm
gonna be able to fix myself? I have tried obvious stuff like resets.

Thanks!

Ruth
 
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Ren79 wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> I've had a bit of an unfortuante incident with a yoghurt type drink in
> my handbag - where my IPAQ 2200 was. I thought that it had only
> reached the very top surface of the PDA, and it turned on happily to
> start with, but then i realised that the bit where the stylus is
> stored was filled with yoghurt-y gunk. Net result is that the thing
> wont turn on anymore, and i can see that there is gunk behind the
> power button and the "itask" button at the right hand side.
>
> Anybody know if this is likely to be rescuable? And anywhere in the
> UK that might be able to do it, I'm guessing its not something i'm
> gonna be able to fix myself? I have tried obvious stuff like resets.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Ruth

Remove battery and case; clean with a soft brush with ordinary water with
a timy amount of dish washing-up liquid. When clean, rinse with de-ionized
water and let dry thoroughly at a warm place, eg. above a radiator.
Be careful because of fragile components.
Afrer re-assembling, follow hard-reset and restore from backup
instructions as found in the user manual.
Success.

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Veel plezier / Have fun
Bert

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"Ren79" <ruthwade@ntlworld.com> schreef in bericht
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> Hi there,
>
> I've had a bit of an unfortuante incident with a yoghurt type drink in
> my handbag - where my IPAQ 2200 was. I thought that it had only
> reached the very top surface of the PDA, and it turned on happily to
> start with, but then i realised that the bit where the stylus is
> stored was filled with yoghurt-y gunk. Net result is that the thing
> wont turn on anymore, and i can see that there is gunk behind the
> power button and the "itask" button at the right hand side.
>
> Anybody know if this is likely to be rescuable? And anywhere in the
> UK that might be able to do it, I'm guessing its not something i'm
> gonna be able to fix myself? I have tried obvious stuff like resets.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Ruth

Your ipaq is beyond repair. It's dead forever
Yogurt drinks are sour, so your mainboard is ruined.
Milk drinks contain calcium too, also very bad for
internal electronic.

You could bring it in for service, but be prepared for the worst.

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"opa.piloot" <opa.piloot@forget.it> schreef in bericht
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> Ren79 wrote:
>
> Remove battery and case; clean with a soft brush with ordinary water with
> a timy amount of dish washing-up liquid. When clean, rinse with de-ionized
> water


Never follow above instructions, ordary water contains minerals
If REALLY necessary use de-mineralized water to clean electronic components.
Do not add washing liquids or or soaps.

Dry quickly with hairblower, otherwise electronic components will corrode.
(copper parts will turn greenish) and that means death for smd.......


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Flying Tiger wrote:

> "opa.piloot" <opa.piloot@forget.it> schreef in bericht
> news:420CCD0E.5D6A01D2@forget.it...
> > Ren79 wrote:
> >
> > Remove battery and case; clean with a soft brush with ordinary water with
> > a timy amount of dish washing-up liquid. When clean, rinse with de-ionized
> > water
>
> Never follow above instructions, ordary water contains minerals
> If REALLY necessary use de-mineralized water to clean electronic components.
> Do not add washing liquids or or soaps.
>
> Dry quickly with hairblower, otherwise electronic components will corrode.
> (copper parts will turn greenish) and that means death for smd.......
>
> F.

I've got some experience in this field. Wather is a great solvent, especially
for yoghurt.
Maybe my tap-water is cleaner than yours but I think any water is better than
yoghurt .
Using other water than tap-water makes no sense; because it wil immediately be
contaminated by the yoghurt.
A small amount of washing liquid is recommended to lessen surface tension; this
will ensuer that all parts are wetted.
Moreover, I recommended using de-ionized water in the last step; because it's
the ions that do the damage.
Be carefull using a hairblower; the temperature might be way too high and the
display might get damaged.
Good drying is essentially, because moist can be trapped underneath surface
mounted devices;
24 hours on a warm radiater (70 dregrees centigrade or so) should be
sufficient.

Since the only other alternative is to throw the thing away, it is worth giving
it a try.
Don't wait too long, because the sooner the yoghurt is removed the better.


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Bert

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"opa.piloot" <opa.piloot@forget.it> schreef in bericht
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> Flying Tiger wrote:
>
>> "opa.piloot" <opa.piloot@forget.it> schreef in bericht
>> news:420CCD0E.5D6A01D2@forget.it...
>> > Ren79 wrote:
>> >
>> > Remove battery and case; clean with a soft brush with ordinary water
>> > with
>> > a timy amount of dish washing-up liquid. When clean, rinse with
>> > de-ionized
>> > water
>>
>> Never follow above instructions, ordary water contains minerals
>> If REALLY necessary use de-mineralized water to clean electronic
>> components.
>> Do not add washing liquids or or soaps.
>>
>> Dry quickly with hairblower, otherwise electronic components will
>> corrode.
>> (copper parts will turn greenish) and that means death for smd.......
>>
>> F.
>
> I've got some experience in this field. Wather is a great solvent,
> especially
> for yoghurt.
> Maybe my tap-water is cleaner than yours but I think any water is better
> than
> yoghurt .
> Using other water than tap-water makes no sense; because it wil
> immediately be
> contaminated by the yoghurt.
> A small amount of washing liquid is recommended to lessen surface tension;
> this
> will ensuer that all parts are wetted.
> Moreover, I recommended using de-ionized water in the last step; because
> it's
> the ions that do the damage.
> Be carefull using a hairblower; the temperature might be way too high and
> the
> display might get damaged.
> Good drying is essentially, because moist can be trapped underneath
> surface
> mounted devices;
> 24 hours on a warm radiater (70 dregrees centigrade or so) should be
> sufficient.
>
> Since the only other alternative is to throw the thing away, it is worth
> giving
> it a try.
> Don't wait too long, because the sooner the yoghurt is removed the better.
>
>
> --
> Veel plezier / Have fun
> Bert
>
> Mail via hccnet.nl
>

How the yogurt pda doing now?


Still dead, I guess......


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On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 16:19:42 +0100, "opa.piloot"
<opa.piloot@forget.it> wrote:

>Ren79 wrote:
>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I've had a bit of an unfortuante incident with a yoghurt type drink in
>> my handbag - where my IPAQ 2200 was. I thought that it had only
>> reached the very top surface of the PDA, and it turned on happily to
>> start with, but then i realised that the bit where the stylus is
>> stored was filled with yoghurt-y gunk. Net result is that the thing
>> wont turn on anymore, and i can see that there is gunk behind the
>> power button and the "itask" button at the right hand side.
>>
>> Anybody know if this is likely to be rescuable? And anywhere in the
>> UK that might be able to do it, I'm guessing its not something i'm
>> gonna be able to fix myself? I have tried obvious stuff like resets.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Ruth
>
>Remove battery and case; clean with a soft brush with ordinary water with
>a timy amount of dish washing-up liquid. When clean, rinse with de-ionized
>water and let dry thoroughly at a warm place, eg. above a radiator.
>Be careful because of fragile components.
>Afrer re-assembling, follow hard-reset and restore from backup
>instructions as found in the user manual.
>Success.

Around 1990, I went to a demo of the "Poqet", which was a DOS-based
handheld. The person giving the demo said rinsing with tap water and
air drying was the best way to handle spills (coffee, soda, etc.) or
dunks (swimming pool). I can't remember full context, but I'm quite
sure at least two of those examples came up. I'm quite sure the person
giving the demo was from the company making the Poqet and assume he
would give correct advice on those items.

I, somewhat naively, assume sensitivity to unexpected liquids depends
on just how the electronics are packaged, and the precise mixture of
metals used (not just which ones, but which ones are touching).
Perhaps some companies coat their boards to make them less sensitive?

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