12-inch Netbooks to Go Mainstream in 2010

[enzo matrix]

As of today I officially disown the term "netbook"

 

[angleheart]

I want a netbook (or laptop or whatever) wiht 24hr battery life so that i can watch movies on a plane when traveling to Asia or camping, or lying on my bed. Traveling with my Aspire 8920 is kind of like using the "brick" for a cell phone. And, YES! Big screen for HD movies.

 

[athreex]

[citation][nom]randomizer[/nom]I've just returned with my TARDIS from 2020 and I saw people with 30" netbooks.[/citation]

well that was...random

 

[athreex]

[citation][nom]ukgooey[/nom]By my reasoning it could have a 52" screen and an Atom CPU and it would still be a netbook. '.[/citation]

[citation][nom]ukgooey[/nom]Actually this is bullshit, but if it's portable and low powered it's a netbook. A 52" screen isn't portable unless you are The Rock.[/citation]

hehe..Guys let's mix it up a little bit more. If this whole thing about netbook is like this...What do you think about NetTops

Let's see Nettop - computer with an intel Atom or low power AMD alternative with 1 GB and maybe a 160 GB . They're sold as all-in-one computers systems or small cases like the Wii. Oh yeah and a couple are equipped with ION. Best of all you can buy them separated and connect them to your 52 inch display.

That has the power of a netbook, but it is called a nettop. Damn it. Guys...I think we all Agree in something..the marketing for such devices is rather confusing.

 

[JohnnyLucky]

See! I always said those tiny screens were too small to read the fine print. Eye doctors are going to make a fortune.

 

[tanderskey]

I know I wouldn't be happy with a computer that small no matter what you call it. And friends of mine who've bought netbooks for their kids or themselves say the screens on the ones they bought, 10 inchers I believe, are just too small to enjoy and also too small to "work" with even a lot of websites without the constant hoz scrolling.

I really like the idea of lighter and lighter laptops and even super thin and light laptops but I still need a decent sized screen 14 or 15 inches even if I'm just surfing. Dual core would be great ... 4Gb memory would be a nice to have and a huge SSD hard drive (yeah, I know, now I've really gone crazy).

 

[zambutu]

somebody said it. Its all about extra battery life (ie. portability) at the expense of computing power. I liked the 11.6" screen ones because they can cram 6 cells or whatever into the machine without the bulge and get 7 or 9 hours of batt life (they claim). Size is very important too, 12" is starting to get big, but if its an edge to edge screen and keyboard, then maybe, but no bigger. All i need is to be able to primarily surf the net seamlessly (without having to scroll sideways), watch movies and output hi def thru hdmi; light, small, and especially good batt life. that's a netbook to me

 

[Guest]

As long as the netbooks or laptops or whatever can have a price tag below $300, I'm in!
In fact, I wanted a lower than $200 laptop, but I guess that's physically not possible.

I think they are doing this to bump up the prices of those pinetrail powered netbooks!

If anything, Intel's newer Atom chip should not bring a price bump to the netbooks, seeing that there's a whole bunch less of silicon inside the machine!

 

[Guest]

[citation][nom]fatkid35[/nom]seems the o.e.m.s lost the point. they were supposed to be cheaper versions of laptops. they are supposed to get cheaper and smaller. it's all going the wrong way![/citation]
I guess the first player who will create the sub $300 model will run away with the profits!
$300 is the sweet spot for many for a netbook!

 

[Guest]

[citation][nom]doomsdaydave11[/nom]Actually this is exactly what I want.I want a $500 laptop/netbook that is very thin and 12 inches. 4GB of RAM, 160GB or so of space, and a 2.0Ghz or more dual core.Really, it's nearly 2010. This isn't far-fetched at all. Especially when my ZuneHD probably has a better graphics chip then all the netbooks out there.[/citation]
And how long does the battery last?
How much is a replacement battery?

Netbooks in general have a $37 replacement battery, and last between 6 and 10 hours on paper, that's 4,5 and 7,5 hours real life browsing or so...

 

[Guest]

[citation][nom]Athreex[/nom]hehe..Guys let's mix it up a little bit more. If this whole thing about netbook is like this...What do you think about NetTopsLet's see Nettop - computer with an intel Atom or low power AMD alternative with 1 GB and maybe a 160 GB . They're sold as all-in-one computers systems or small cases like the Wii. Oh yeah and a couple are equipped with ION. Best of all you can buy them separated and connect them to your 52 inch display.That has the power of a netbook, but it is called a nettop. Damn it. Guys...I think we all Agree in something..the marketing for such devices is rather confusing.[/citation]
Is pretty simple!
Is called a nettop, because it does not have an integrated screen or keyboard.
If it only had a screen, it would be a tablet pc, or touch pc (as HP calls it 'touchsmart)
If it only has a keyboard (and perhaps a small screen in the place of the num pad), it would be called an EEE Keyboard, since Asus is the first on the market with such plans.

Not to mention the Atom powered MIDS, smaller than 10" netbooks WITH DVD drive (like Kohjinsha), and Atom powered HTPC's (which is different from nettops).

 

[Guest]

[citation][nom]zambutu[/nom]somebody said it. Its all about extra battery life (ie. portability) at the expense of computing power. I liked the 11.6" screen ones because they can cram 6 cells or whatever into the machine without the bulge and get 7 or 9 hours of batt life (they claim). Size is very important too, 12" is starting to get big, but if its an edge to edge screen and keyboard, then maybe, but no bigger. All i need is to be able to primarily surf the net seamlessly (without having to scroll sideways), watch movies and output hi def thru hdmi; light, small, and especially good batt life. that's a netbook to me[/citation]
6Cell fits in a 9 and 10" netbook pretty fine too!

 

[platemoon]

All I have to say is that Dell, Sager, HP, Toshiba and some others had 12" laptops with dual core capabilities from some time ago, and they never called them netbooks.

 

[platemoon]

As far as I know, Dell, Sager, HP, Toshiba and some others have this 12" laptops with dual core capabilities for more than 2 years ago, and they never called them netbooks. The main reason they never would be able to compete in the 199.99 - 299.99 price tag of the netbooks, where they started back with Asus and their EEE netbook. After that time Acer did a stong move with the Acer One, and then every other big manufacture wanted a pice of the cake and made their offering.

 

[krazyderek]

you're paying for battery life in a netbook, if you wanted the cheapest thing that browsed the web you'd be digging through the recertified bin at your local computer store on ebay.

I think a logical place for netbooks to "end" would be when the unit is just big enough to hold a true 100% keyboard. Anything larger would fit within the notebook definition, anything under would be a netbook.

I for one support the netbook movement, i mean currently netbooks are the only windows platform that can offer the same battery life as a macbook (see ananadtech articles benchmarking real world browsing). I love my mac, but i also think that people should have a choice. And i'm extatic about the new ION netbooks!!!!!!!!!! just waiting to see a couple of reviews on performance and actual battery life before i commit.

 

[quarkstorm]

netbooks are all about portability, battery life and most importantly price. most people that buy netbooks don't really care about performance. it would be nice to have a "netbook" with i7-like computing power and HD5970-like graphics performance AND for only US$399 or lower.

 

[bogcotton]

When are the Physicists and Chemists going to make a new type of battery already?
If we had more powerful batteries, small laptops could replace netbooks except for at the low price point, and battery run electric cars wouldn't be a stupid idea.
Give me a matter-antimatter battery or something.

 

[Caffeinecarl]

How about this... anything with between a built in screen 7" or larger (anything smaller is a phone/PDA, sorry) that's designed to be used on the road, on batteries, regardless of processor/graphics power, amount of RAM, expandability, presence of an optical drive, etc...is a PORTABLE COMPUTER! Simple as that.

 

[zambutu]

[citation][nom]ProDigit80[/nom]6Cell fits in a 9 and 10" netbook pretty fine too![/citation]

without the big stupid bulge?

 

[Guest]

For me, it's like this: netbook = long battery life, acceptable keyboard, small display, built-in WiFi/BlueTooth/etc. connectivity. And enough CPU to surf the Web, read/write docs, send/get email. And LIGHT.

My Asus netbook got me seven hours of battery on a train from Los Angeles to Texas. I couldn't complain. And it fit in my backpack with all my other belongings, no problem.

Who the hell needs a dual-core for writing email or surfing the Web? You watching HD porn or something? ;-p