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On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:23:24 GMT, John in Detroit
<Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>Well, yes, but burning DVD's takes time, about 3-4 hours on my system
>for each DVD (which holds 1-4 hours of video depending on the quality
>and how much compression I have NERO add to the file)
>
>Plus my laptop does not play DVDs well, MPEG's it can do (just) but
>DVD's not always well

If you're taking the computer anyway, looks like you don't need to
make DVDs. Just play the MPEG files on the computer.

> Of course I do have a portable dedicated APEX DVD
>spinner that works rather well (it's showing Dr. Who as I type)
>
>Mark Lloyd wrote:
>
>>
>> Or create DVDs and just take THEM.
>>
>> Leaving the Replay home could allow it to be recording more shows.
>>

--
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam."
 
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In article <0cY8e.1238$L03.1093@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com>,
John in Detroit <Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Well, yes, but burning DVD's takes time, about 3-4 hours on my system
> for each DVD

ummmm....it takes no more than 10 minutes on my system. And that's
whether the RTV exported file is low or medium quality.

Exporting the file off my RTV is what takes a long time. But once I
have it, I run ReVue to clean up the MPG and then Nero burns it in no
time. Literally, it's just a few minutes from opening ReVue to taking a
ready to go DVD out of the burner.
 
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On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:23:24 GMT, John in Detroit
<Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>Well, yes, but burning DVD's takes time, about 3-4 hours on my system
>for each DVD (which holds 1-4 hours of video depending on the quality
>and how much compression I have NERO add to the file)
>

The speed of DVD burning depends on the recorder. Some 16X units are
available. The speed of transcoding depends greatly of computer speed.
My newest system (P4 3GHz, 8--MHz FSB, 1GB RAM, 4x DVD) does a whole
disk (from MPEG-2 source) in about 45 minutes.

I get over 5 hours on a DVD.

>Plus my laptop does not play DVDs well, MPEG's it can do (just) but
>DVD's not always well Of course I do have a portable dedicated APEX DVD
>spinner that works rather well (it's showing Dr. Who as I type)
>
>Mark Lloyd wrote:
>
>>
>> Or create DVDs and just take THEM.
>>
>> Leaving the Replay home could allow it to be recording more shows.
>>

--
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam."
 
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Mark, you or someone was saying that you/they sometimes forget what
channel the show they were watching was recorded from or when

I was just pointing out that the information is there and how to
retrieve it. Much easier than with a VCR And yes, I do agree, there is
usually no need to do that, I mean. to be honest, I don't often care
less the show is a serial presentation and I want them in order

Mark Lloyd wrote:

>
> You can. So, I'm saying there is often no need to do so.
--
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"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business"
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Replay 3K HDs die because of HEAT. Fluid Bearing drives don't solve the
problem other than reducing operating noise levels. When a drive is
subjected to a temperatures above it's normal operating temperature. The
air space between the head and the disc decreases, thus increasing the risk
of contact and damage occurs. Under normal operating temperatures, the head
never touches the disc at all. Talk to anyone who does data recovery on
crashed drives and they will tell you the same thing.

Data access or PVR use has nothing to do with it. HDs are meant to read and
write data constantly. Here's a simple test. Take the temperature of a
drive in a 3000, with partially blocked vents, in it's little "easy bake"
case. Now remove the cover to the Replay and take the HD it out of it's
"easy bake" and let it hang outside of the enclosure still connected to the
system. Which HD will be hotter and above normal operating temperature in
the same amount of time?

Please don't try to intimidate me with your petty, "I have dozens of
upgraded 3K out there for 5 years or more surviving the "heat issue" quite
well", you're not welcomed. Because you haven't proven JACK.

I'm a Replay fan just like you, just not as fanatical. Maybe I don't follow
the corporate fertilizer that DNNA/D&M Holdings decides to put out to try
raise their stock prices. I just hope they don't turn the next Replay into
another high end over priced HDVR. Just because they may be the first to
market a HDVR, does not mean they will be the only one. Most likely it will
be made in China.

Being the first one out in the market is not always good, other than raising
your stock prices. ReplayTV was the first PVR, then came TiVo. The number
of households with TiVo is expected to increase from 5% to 41% in five
years. The number of 3Ks to become doorstops, is also expected to increase.

I used to attend CES quite frequently, but I spent most of the time at the
Adult-EX or in the casinos.


"Tony D" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:BM-dnXa0z6T1iv7fRVn-3Q@comcast.com...
> >There is in fact a heat problem, especially when there is not enough
> > ventilation to the 3000s. The drive is too close to the power supply.
Most
> > owners are un-aware of that, and wonder why their HDs are dying. We get
one
> > of those posts here at least once a month.
>
> The HD die mainly because the old drives can't take the pounding in
> PVRs. Replacing the drive with a fluid bearing drive mysteriously fixes
> the issue. I have dozens of upgraded 3K out there for 5 years or more
> surviving the "heat issue" quite well, thank you.
> >
 
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"Mark Lloyd" <mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:33:28 GMT, John in Detroit
> <Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> While the Replay's drive interface can handle VERY large drives,
> there's still going to be a limit to the Replay software (the OLDER
> {<4000} units were limited to about 170 hours)..
>

How were the 320 Hour units setup? Dual 160Gb drives?
 
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On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 23:31:48 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

>In article <0cY8e.1238$L03.1093@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com>,
> John in Detroit <Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> Well, yes, but burning DVD's takes time, about 3-4 hours on my system
>> for each DVD
>
>ummmm....it takes no more than 10 minutes on my system. And that's
>whether the RTV exported file is low or medium quality.
>
>Exporting the file off my RTV is what takes a long time. But once I
>have it, I run ReVue to clean up the MPG and then Nero burns it in no
>time. Literally, it's just a few minutes from opening ReVue to taking a
>ready to go DVD out of the burner.

Are you talking about a video DVD, or a DVD-ROM?

Most of the shows I record are copied to computer automatically (a
task in DVArchive) so I often don't know anything about the show being
on until the file shows up in my video directory. I created a category
called EXPORT on the Replay, set the shows I want to keep to use that
category, and put a task in DVA to copy everything from that category
to computer.

The transfer speed (which you set in DVA) is set to 1200. That works,
although I'd use 600 for a Replay I'm trying to use at the same time.
1200 is bad for control latency (for example: press 'pause' and wait
3-5 minutes for playback to stop).

--
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam."
 
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On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 00:26:56 GMT, John in Detroit
<Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>Mark, you or someone was saying that you/they sometimes forget what
>channel the show they were watching was recorded from or when
>

Quite often that happens. It can be embarrassing when someone asks you
what channel that;s on (DVRs are still not that well known).

>I was just pointing out that the information is there and how to
>retrieve it. Much easier than with a VCR And yes, I do agree, there is
>usually no need to do that, I mean. to be honest, I don't often care
>less the show is a serial presentation and I want them in order
>
>Mark Lloyd wrote:
>
>>
>> You can. So, I'm saying there is often no need to do so.

--
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam."
 
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On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:27:51 -0700, "Rastamon"
<Rastamon@dakine.eh.invalid> wrote:

>
>"Mark Lloyd" <mlloyd@5xxxmail.com5xxx> wrote in message
>news:eek:bu761tg4l8713k6ehepqsnh64gikdmhc5@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 11:33:28 GMT, John in Detroit
>> <Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> While the Replay's drive interface can handle VERY large drives,
>> there's still going to be a limit to the Replay software (the OLDER
>> {<4000} units were limited to about 170 hours)..
>>
>
>How were the 320 Hour units setup? Dual 160Gb drives?
>

I don't have one of those (anyway, if you want 320 hrs it costs less
to buy a 40 hr unit and upgrade). The 320 hour Replay wasn't available
until recently, and you can get 320GB hard drives.

--
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam."
 
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I got my first Replay last year,

Now... What you type below is my point. Though RePlay as we know it has
been discontinued, they are coming out with a new product, a
replacement, with some different features.

I'm hoping they keep what makes RePlay great but only time will tell on
that one. But I'd say that like the Cavalier, which is not really dead,
it's just "Reborn" as the Cobalt, The Replay is not dead at all

Now the Olds Delta 88.... History

Rastamon wrote:

> I read DNNA's corporate masturbation report stating it stopped producing
> Replay units, and it's coming out with a new product. Replay technology
> inspired? hmm... In all sense, ReplayTV is dead, but will it be reborn? It
> may not be called a ReplayTV, probably something like REVO. LOL Will it
> have the same capabilities? I hope so. Will I buy it? Only if it's the best
> thing out there, but not right away. Other companies are concurrently
> developing HDVRs.


--
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"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business"
Diabetic? http://community.compuserve.com/diabetes
 
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Rastamon wrote:

> Replay 3K HDs die because of HEAT. Fluid Bearing drives don't solve the
> problem other than reducing operating noise levels.

Wrong, a simple search on Tom's hardware will show that FB versions of
the same drive run at lower temps.

> Data access or PVR use has nothing to do with it. HDs are meant to read and
> write data constantly. Here's a simple test. Take the temperature of a
> drive in a 3000, with partially blocked vents, in it's little "easy bake"
> case. Now remove the cover to the Replay and take the HD it out of it's
> "easy bake" and let it hang outside of the enclosure still connected to the
> system. Which HD will be hotter and above normal operating temperature in
> the same amount of time?
>
> Please don't try to intimidate me with your petty, "I have dozens of
> upgraded 3K out there for 5 years or more surviving the "heat issue" quite
> well", you're not welcomed. Because you haven't proven JACK.

That would be dozens of times the empirical support of "failed drives"
you read here "all the time". LOL

You remind me of the guys who go on various forums and parrot "You
shouldn't use 7200rpm drives in Replay -TOO HOT!!!","You shouldn't use
7200rpm drives in Replay -TOO HOT!!!" When you link them to mfg
datasheets which show many of these drives are cooler than the original
Maxtors, they continue to chant the mantra, which gives you a new
definition for stupidity.

So lets see, take a drive and hang it outside your computer and it runs
cooler?? Pure genius.

Quick! get your theories over to Maxtor right away. Their new Quickview
drives are designed for the heavier service demands of pvrs. You might
be able to save them a bundle.

>
> Being the first one out in the market is not always good, other than raising
> your stock prices. ReplayTV was the first PVR, then came TiVo.

Wrong again. Replay made the announcements, etc, but Tivo had the first
units on the street by 1-2 months.

> The number
> of households with TiVo is expected to increase from 5% to 41% in five
> years.

An absolutely ridiculous statement. 2/3 of all Tivo subscribers are
DirecTivo. Direct has not renewed the agreement and is obligated for
support only through 2006. They are sourcing their own PVR built in
England. Which is why the No 1 and No 2 guys at Tivo have fled the
company, why 2 Wall St services have classified them as "junk" status,
why nobody will build their HDTivo for them, and why they might not even
be around in 1 yr, let alone 4.