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* robin rules Wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:

> From the beginning, Tivo's advertising campaigns and tv
> commercials have been AWFUL. They do nothing to inform the
> consumer of the miracle of Tivo. The average person is not going
> to subscribe to a service if they think that the main thing that
> it does is pause live tv. They will stick to their VCRs for the
> time being. Love Tivo... unbelievable idiots when it comes to
> advertising.
>

Got any ideas then? You think they haven't heard this? The
commercials I have seen discuss every feature of the Tivo I use every
day. The bottom line is that you just don't understand it until you
use it and no amount of advertising will ever fix that problem its
just that type of device.

How would you advertise TV today to someone that never had one/saw
one? Do you think you could convince them they need to have one? VHS
or DVD player, same thing? If I had to guess I have probably used my
DVD players and VHS players maybe ~100 hours since I ever had one! (I
am 37 years old and My father had one of the first VHS players with
DIALS to change stations) Blockbuster wasn't getting rich on me and I
NEVER time shifted, enter Tivo. Now I never watch Live TV, don't
channel surf and never rent movies.

Cable companies are getting new customers to 'praise' their 'Tivo's'
because they are already in your house, what do you have to lose by
giving them a shot for an extra $10 a month on top of a bill you are
already paying? Have you ever known anyone to buy a Tivo, use it for
a couple of weeks and then bring it back? No because if the person
watches ANY TV at all it is well worth the cash. Now instead of
putting that Tivo in their house, brag to everyone you know but never
let them touch the device, how many do you think would buy it then?
These are friends and acquaintances that trust your opinion right?
Still cant do it, why? If you cant convince your friends how is Tivo
going to convince a stranger?

"So let me get this straight. You want me to buy yet another box to
stick in my Entertainment center and pay ANOTHER $12 a month for
something I can do with TV Guide and a VCR" (which they aren't likely
doing today) Aint gonna happen!

You have to convince someone there is a need where it is almost
impossible to see one. Who thinks there is something wrong with their
own viewing habits and who on this earth really thinks they need to
watch MORE TV?

I don't envy their (Tivo) position but they didn't become the
'Kleenex' of the DVR world by doing something wrong...

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* Joe Smith Wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:

> What is confusing is that Golf God put ">" quote marks in front of
> his text, making it look like the "To the contrary" line is
> something that Jack said.

He has been told how much of a Moron because of things like this but
he still continues to post like a feeble minded twit. At least shawnie
the troll is entertaining, this troll is just dumb.

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On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 21:42:16 -0800, Joe Smith <joe@inwap.com> wrote:


>Golf God wrote:
> >
>
>What is confusing is that Golf God put ">" quote marks in front of
>his text, making it look like the "To the contrary" line is
>something that Jack said.
>
> -Joe


Damn, good catch. I thought he just sent an empty reply.
 
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In article <180220051948337545%nospam@nospam.com>, Quiet Desperation
<nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

> Apple is going to buy Tivo. Just a prediction.

See? You heard it here first. :)
 

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On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 04:06:32 GMT, Jack Zwick <jzwick3@mindspring.com>
wrote:

>In article <190220051713130259%nospam@nospam.com>,
> Quiet Desperation <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <jzwick3-67647F.16572019022005@news1.east.earthlink.net>,
>> Jack Zwick <jzwick3@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Already attempting to make. If they were making it, it'd be for sale
>> > already.
>>
>> Man that is most nitpicky response I've seen in days, and that's months
>> in Internet years. ;-) OK.
>>
>> IF string = "making" then string = "developing"
>>
>> There. Better? Sheesh.
>
>Don't buy promises. Likely no "homegrown" DVR will see the light of day
>in 2005.

Likely no cablecard HD DVR will see the light of day before 2008.

Don't buy promises.

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On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 22:46:14 -0800, robin rules <robin@rules.com>
wrote:

>From the beginning, Tivo's advertising campaigns and tv commercials have
>been AWFUL. They do nothing to inform the consumer of the miracle of
>Tivo. The average person is not going to subscribe to a service if they
>think that the main thing that it does is pause live tv. They will
>stick to their VCRs for the time being. Love Tivo... unbelievable
>idiots when it comes to advertising.


I heard a few radio ads around valentines day on a Sports talk radio
extolling the virtues of Tivo "wish lists" and the ability to spend
more time "with your honey" watching Tivo.

Ya, that's what the 90% male audience of Sports Talk radio wants
to hear about, how to spend more quality time with their honey.

Geeze what morons.

Sean