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In article <Qr2dne9Kj4DG2V7fRVn-jg@comcast.com>,
keshlam-nospam@comcast.net (Joe Kesselman) wrote:

> Huh? The whole point of this as I understood it was supposed to be that
> they can run a Power emulator/JIT on top of the the Intel chip and get
> adequate speed *without* changing their software... and without
> impairing their ability to flip back to Power chips in a future
> generation.

The emulator/JIT (Rosetta) is just one part of the migration strategy.

The other (equally important) part is the ability of Xcode 2.1 (which
developers have now) to make what are called "Dual Binaries".

If you're developing an application in XCode you tick a box and the
executable it produces will run on *both* PPC *and* MacIntel.

Developers I know are already producing dual binaries.

> (I was also under the impression that they were only switching for the
> laptops, specifically because they hadn't gotten the heat/performance
> tradeoff they wanted out of the current generation of Power chips and
> didn't want to wait before releasing new machines. The desktop systems,
> as far as I know, are staying on Power processors.

No, Apple is shifting the whole product range.

 

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In article <Xns9684DF99E74C4hortajanus6org@208.49.80.60>, horta@janus6.org
(The Horta) wrote:

> It's for their entire product line, according to Macworld. Also,
> those same experts claim that emulated apps (Rosetta) are
> considerably slower then native ones (of course, no surprise
> there). While it doesn't matter much for Word it will for most
> other apps, including simple browsing. It's just a Band Aid until
> their developer community is all on-board.

Developers who're using Xcode are climbing on board. Some have already
released 'Universal Binary' versions of existing applications or
utilities (sorry I called it 'Dual Binary' in an earlier post, but
'Universal Binary' is the Apple term).

OK nothing huge yet, http/ipsp.kaisakura.com/homebrew.php is one tiny
example, but it *is* starting to happen already, and this when production
MacIntel hardware (stuff that you and I can actually buy) isn't due to
ship until 2006.

 

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"dale" <dallen@frognet.net> wrote in message
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>I am running 10.2 on my audio partition
> 10.3 is on a my general purposes partition,
> I am considering an upgrade to 10.4 as it has aggriated audio device
> capacity.
> Metric Halo has just issued drivers and beta software for10.4.
> (TC Electronics has also issued a 10.4 patch for spark xl. )

Okay, so you too then have opted to purchase at least three versions of
MacOS (including the one that shipped with your computer) since OSX was
introduced 4 years ago. In the same time, there has been only one version of
XP that I've had to purchase.

Craig

 

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In article <qfUwe.3739$Qo.3312@fed1read01>, craigmw@EFFOFFSPAMcox.net
(CeeDub) wrote:

> When I purchased my Mac G4 tower, it came with
> an nVidia graphics card with a DVI output. My monitor also came with a
> DVI connection, as well as a standard VGA connection. When I tried to
> plug in my monitor, I found that Mac's version of the DVI connector is
> different than the standard DVI connector. So, I have to run my monitor
> off the VGA.

You don't say exactly which G4/nVidia combo it is, but isn't this
incompatibility because it's actually an ADC connector rather than
standard DVI?

In which case you could connect it to your standard DVI monitor with one
of the Dr Bott ADC->DVI adaptors? This one:
http/www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?code=0123-ADE2 and then you would be
staying in the digital domain rather than converting to analogue VGA,
which will probably improve your picture quality.

I do this on my G5 - which has one ADC connector and one standard DVI
connector - so I can run two Iiyama TFTs each of which has a standard DVI
input.

 

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"David Morton" <dmorton@well.com> wrote in message
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> In article <qfUwe.3739$Qo.3312@fed1read01>, craigmw@EFFOFFSPAMcox.net
> (CeeDub) wrote:
>
>> When I purchased my Mac G4 tower, it came with
>> an nVidia graphics card with a DVI output. My monitor also came with a
>> DVI connection, as well as a standard VGA connection. When I tried to
>> plug in my monitor, I found that Mac's version of the DVI connector is
>> different than the standard DVI connector. So, I have to run my monitor
>> off the VGA.
>
> You don't say exactly which G4/nVidia combo it is, but isn't this
> incompatibility because it's actually an ADC connector rather than
> standard DVI?
>
> In which case you could connect it to your standard DVI monitor with one
> of the Dr Bott ADC->DVI adaptors? This one:
> http/www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?code=0123-ADE2 and then you would be
> staying in the digital domain rather than converting to analogue VGA,
> which will probably improve your picture quality.
>
> I do this on my G5 - which has one ADC connector and one standard DVI
> connector - so I can run two Iiyama TFTs each of which has a standard DVI
> input.

David:

Yeah, its the ADC adapter. When I purchased the G4, I asked that it be DVI
compatible, since I'd been eyeing those nice LCD monitors.

Craig

 

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Joe Kesselman wrote:
>> You're kidding, right?
>
>
> No.

OS 9?

 

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no I have opted to purchase one.
it came with one
and my univesity has a purchase plan with apple
cost for me is for the media only.
I have had no virus problems
I have had no security problems

 

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what about the weekly 'patches''?
cheers,
Bob

"CeeDub" <craigmw@EFFOFFSPAMcox.net> schreef in bericht
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>
> "dale" <dallen@frognet.net> wrote in message
> news:1120151520.297901.228470@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >I am running 10.2 on my audio partition
> > 10.3 is on a my general purposes partition,
> > I am considering an upgrade to 10.4 as it has aggriated audio device
> > capacity.
> > Metric Halo has just issued drivers and beta software for10.4.
> > (TC Electronics has also issued a 10.4 patch for spark xl. )
>
> Okay, so you too then have opted to purchase at least three versions of
> MacOS (including the one that shipped with your computer) since OSX was
> introduced 4 years ago. In the same time, there has been only one version
of
> XP that I've had to purchase.
>
> Craig
>
>

 

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"Troy" <alternate-root@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> I woulden't worry about it my G5 will last me for years to come as it does
> everything I need it to do.If you are always waiting on the latest
> greatest
> thing you will be waiting a long time.Also I woulden't dump a bunch of
> money
> into a new 64 bit PC without the proper windows 64 bit operating system
> even
> being on the market yet.You may be setting yourself up for a lot of
> trouble.
>
You don't get out much do you? Windows XP 64-bit edition is now
commercially available. I've got it running on an Athlon64 PC right now.

Bill.

 

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david wrote:
> Some people believe that Jobs wants people to compare both OS's on the
> same machine, cuz of Jobs' belief that OS X will be considerably better
> and faster than whatever Gates' Longhorn finally ends up being released
> next year. Kinda ballsey, eh?
>
> It'll also be interesting to watch the hacker world try to make OS X
> load and work on a standard PC. In this game of cops and robbers, will
> the hackers be smarter than whatever Apple comes up with to prevent
> it??

It may also have to do with "trusted computing"; hardware level
"protection" which means a movie or an mp3 won't run unless you've paid
for it.- or an MS Word document won't open in OpenOffice. Scary stuff.
Intel is big in this.

http/www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html

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"Bob" <b.dewever@amc.uva.nl> wrote in
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> what about the weekly 'patches''?
> cheers,
> Bob


PATCHES?! We don't need no stinkin' patches!

 

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Bill Ruys <bill.ruys@nospam.siliconaudio.co.nz> wrote in message
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>
> "Troy" <alternate-root@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:wHBwe.1828569$6l.581899@pd7tw2no...
> > I woulden't worry about it my G5 will last me for years to come as it
does
> > everything I need it to do.If you are always waiting on the latest
> > greatest
> > thing you will be waiting a long time.Also I woulden't dump a bunch of
> > money
> > into a new 64 bit PC without the proper windows 64 bit operating system
> > even
> > being on the market yet.You may be setting yourself up for a lot of
> > trouble.
> >
> You don't get out much do you? Windows XP 64-bit edition is now
> commercially available. I've got it running on an Athlon64 PC right now.
>
> Bill.
>
>

I am well aware of that Bill......as I said a "proper" 64 bit OS.XP 64 bit
is just re hashed I was refering to Longhorn