App Developer Hires Hacker, Security Firms Pissed

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Kelavarus

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[citation][nom]snotling[/nom]Waht if a would be scientist released a little known bacteria in the Wild to "prove that it can make people sick" that would be just irresponsible and unethical. He won't be hired by any serious company after that. Same thing with hiring malware developers for security. He has proven to be irresponsible and unethical... whoever associates with him afterwards sure aint better.[/citation]

"Mogeneration". "iPhone Application Developer".

I fail to see where you even get that his job has anything to do with security. And as said, your analogy is not very good.

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security by obscurity is the myth, the "worm" took advantage of a default password. on a jailbroken iPhone. that did not damage the device, just pointed out the vulerability by use of a cute visual cue. no harm done. "hackers" have an imagination and "out of the box" outlook that can be harnessed by a forward looking bussiness. they will milk him of all his ideas, use the profitable ones to make money, and everybody wins, except the poor fellow at sophos that is crying the blues because he never had an original thought in his head. the conformist will drag down or shut out all nonconformists, the never hire a hacker attitude is just the establishment protecting the status quo. good for Towns, and good for Mogeneration!
 

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[citation][nom]XZaapryca[/nom]This is an old story. Less scrupulous coders getting jobs because of their cracking prowess. This was an outrage in the 80's too. Last time I checked, Paris Hilton was famous for no reason whatsoever.[/citation]

I agree with you, just not fully so ill add to it.. On your first point ill correct you by saying that as much true and known it is; hiring someone to create for you an application on your hardware which he just hijacked and infecteed to you is plain dumb and dissrespectful in some ways from the company that hired him, torwards the consumer.

And also there was a reason on why Paris Hilton became famous. Her homemade porn movie was out on the loose online. That exacty when they made her famous. "Fuck me, im famous" has never been more accurate in history before or ever since... lol
 

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I'm sorry, wasn't the first known net-hacker [the one that changed the clocks in a bank] employed immediately after? This seems to be an ancient precedent.
 

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[citation][nom]snotling[/nom]WWaht if a would be scientist released a little known bacteria in the Wild to "prove that it can make people sick" that would be just irresponsible and unethical. He won't be hired by any serious company after that.[/citation]
Obviously you forgot the pharma industry... just replace "bacteria" with "virus".
 

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Hackers are a harmless bunch who try to get access to things for the challenge. It is Crackers who cause malicious damage with no concern for others. People who write any form of virus that affects multiple users should be shot onsite. Whether it "just" changes your background or deletes all your documents - there is no moral difference - these idiots are still being an a$$hole and annoying loads of people. These useless gibbons don't have the true skill to hack in to the FBI for example so they pick easy targets. And anyone who says that they are trying to get at Microsoft or Apple are talking rubbish - the only people that get affected are the end users and the only people that benefit are the Anti Virus companies (that's another conspiracy theory altogether).
 

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I pity the fools who got hacked. People who get infected by such childish code deserved it by being noobs and not changing a DEFAULT password. It is simply natural selection applied to the computer world, survival of the fittest. I own a computer since 1989 and I was never infected with anything. I
 

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Are the security firms just pissed because he figured out the hack first, or because some other company got this kid and not them? Frankly his hack comes across as more white hat than black (probably grey). Its not the first or last time someone has publicly revealed an exploit to point out the inherent dangers they represent.

Granted, he did it REALLY publicly, but only on jailbroken phones which as far as I am concerned don't really have rights in the security world.

Yeah yeah, unpopular view.
 
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