Apple Discontinues the $999 White MacBook

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alidan

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[citation][nom]thekurrgan[/nom]There is certainly the Apple tax being applied. However, I can say from experience that Apple when they construct a laptop, uses the best materials. It was not surprising that the white macbook was discontinued as I found it to be not worth the price with its plastic construction, lower quality keyboard, lower quality hard drive, etc..All of their Macbook Pro lines are of equal quality.While it is beyond certain, that for the same price you can get more "muscle" from a regular PC laptop, the quality is in fact not on par with the higher priced apple product.I've bought and deployed thousands of laptops for various places I've worked for, ranging from low end netbooks to high end workstation replacement laptops. It wasn't until one of the VP's in my company demanded a Macbook Pro I ever even gave it a second look. So when he did, we ordered up a 17" and I had to load it up with software so he could use it. Once I got past the fact it was an Apple and was something I was used to hating, I discovered that this unit was made very well. The screen was noticed first, hinge quality second, and obviously the all metal construction. All in all, I can say that to get a laptop of the same quality, you are going to spend *about* the same amount of money from PC manufacturers. So for a change, I replaced my 5 year old laptop with a new mid 2010 Macbook Pro 17 just like the one the VP demanded, and have been using it ever since. Apple usually has the most annoying users, and they are delusional because they typically swear the products are perfect.. but I find that when looked at objectively, the line apple puts out it of a quality that justifies the price.Does it justify for the enthusiast? probably not. Can you buy an equal quality PC? Absolutely, For about the same price, is my only point.[/citation]

i get where you are coming from, build quality on macs... are better than many laptops (no the pc side, and you can pay for really nice cased or realy cheap ones, its your choice)

but lets look at it this way.

does it matter if the body of the laptop gets scratched?
is the screen THAT much better? this is important for mulitmedia, but not so much for getting s*** done

in my experiance, laptops can "feel" like they are lower quality, but it comes down to do they preform lesser than others? and really, unless the screen is crap, or you bought something that is 500$ and you know the parts are worth 700 and it wasn't a sale, you dont get many problems with pc style laptops.

and lets be honest here. if you are dropping a laptop from a hight great enough were the aluminium body REALLY makes a difference, the internals are f***ed anyway (screen, hdd, and possibly a ssd though they are more resistant to falls)
 

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[citation][nom]obbob[/nom]I am a mac user and not only do i find the build quality of my MBP a lot higher than any other PC laptop i have had, I also find that the OS is at a much higher standard than anything microsoft have made with windows.To clarify, I have a 13in MBP and an Acer Aspire 6920G.The acer has never worked properly. It has always had serious hardware and OS software issues since day one. I have never been able to trust it to work for what i needed it to do (lots of design work).I paid £800 for it, and it was honestly the biggest waste of money i think i will ever experience. Utter garbage. On paper it is amazing though. It has 2xmore HDD, RAM and "cool features" than my mac, but at least my mac works properly and is fit for purpose.Every member of my family has owned (and binned) numerous dell computers for multiple hardware and software meltdowns. They are garbage.I can run 10 applications simultaneously and my mac never breaks a sweat. If i open 3 programs on my acer, all hell breaks loose and mr gates falls to his knees (so to speak...yes i know he doesnt own microsoft anymore btw...its called "having a sense of humour"...or something along those lines...)I know macs are pricier than pcs, but you pay for what you get. That it a fact. You can call me a "mac dearest comrade" or a "moron" as much as you like, but i'd rather line the pockets of mr jobs for a product which actually works, as opposed to lining the pockets of mr dell-computers for a product which really doesnt.[/citation]

wow, acer and dell, two of the worst computer companies, and you are supriesd that the mac is better?

i have a... not sure what the laptop is... and i have 8 windows of firefox running on it with 200tabs between them all, chrome with 6 tabs opera with 20, alog with a 1080p video playing to the right hand side (its nto playing at 1920x1080, closer to 535x301), all the while playing terraria. ram is almost all used, processor and its 3 cores are used fairly well, but its still running with no problem.

its all about the brand you get with a laptop. this one was 600$ christmas amd build.
dell doesnt get good till you are in the 2000$ range, but with laptops 1500+ and they are ok out of the box. acer has so many problems its funny how they are still in business.
 

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applegetsmelaid :
Justifying buying an Apple because of the aluminum body is like justifying why you are dating a girl with 38 DD and 0.7 hip-to-waist ratio but she can only read at the same level as a 3rd grader.



Good analogy. You might look like a player walking in to a party with that girl, but the second she opens her mouth, everyone knows what your game is. 10-years from now, she's on her third boob job, has so much collagen and botox injected into her face taht she looks like a burn victim, and no one envies you anymore.

Same with an Apple. Sure, you may think you look cool with that fancy apple logo and all-aluminum design, typing away on your screenplay at the local starbucks, but everyone knows how much you paid and how little you actually get out of it, you aren't fooling anyone. 2 years from now, you can't unplug it from the wall because the non-user-replaceable battery is dead, and you really wish you had sprung for the 4GB of memory instead of the 2GB, and 128GB SDD instead of 64GB, but those are not replaceable either.

FYI: Having a girl with a 0.7 Hip/Waist ratio will NOT make you look like a player.
 

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[citation][nom]6kaine9[/nom]Good analogy. You might look like a player walking in to a party with that girl, but the second she opens her mouth, everyone knows what your game is. 10-years from now, she's on her third boob job, has so much collagen and botox injected into her face taht she looks like a burn victim, and no one envies you anymore.Same with an Apple. Sure, you may think you look cool with that fancy apple logo and all-aluminum design, typing away on your screenplay at the local starbucks, but everyone knows how much you paid and how little you actually get out of it, you aren't fooling anyone. 2 years from now, you can't unplug it from the wall because the non-user-replaceable battery is dead, and you really wish you had sprung for the 4GB of memory instead of the 2GB, and 128GB SDD instead of 64GB, but those are not replaceable either.[/quote]FYI: Having a girl with a 0.7 Hip/Waist ratio will NOT make you look like a player.[/citation]


though he does have a good point, i got both but im selling the mbp atm i do love the look and the way its made but my hp just does everything perfectly, sure the battery doesnt last as long and looks ugly but as a pc it does its job well.
 

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"People don't buy macs for the hardware. Hasn't that always been clear?
(Although I'd rather have a mac that rarely breaks to a dell laptop in which the screen, hard drive, and mother board all go bad within a couple years; personal experience)."

Using Assus, I have never had that problem. As a rule, in two years time I am ready to replace my laptops and get the latest specs. I am too smart to be seen with a iGotcrappedon product.
Apple is for dumb dumb people.
 

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So a formerly premium product (MBA) is now positioned as both an low- and high-end contender?

That's sure to cause some confusion among the less-educated crowds that buy a Mac.
 

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[citation][nom]superkillrobot[/nom]I really don't understand all of the Mac hate, I use both quite regularly and I don't get why it has to be one or the other.[/citation]

Because you pay twice as much for a Mac and get half the PC. Like the operating system? Go download Ubuntu and put KDE on it. Like their desktop cases? Get yourself a Lian Li, Silverstone, or Corsair case and be happy. Oh, but I forgot that their laptops are so slim. Get out of your chair, go to Best Buy and look at a few Asus or Dell laptops and see that the 0.002" isn't worth shit. Like the hardware they use? There's something wrong with you.

That just about covers it. Absolutely NO reason whatsoever for the price, except for the Apple logo you get. And if you want to pay $500 for a logo (it lights up, OMG!), be my guest.
 
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