Apple iCloud, iOS 5 Arrive to Usher in Post-PC/Mac Era

[anony2004]

What's so appalling is the fact that people fail to understand that something which took some 30 years to evolve cannot be a thing of the past when the whole world literally depends on it. PC brought countless innovations along with it too, innovations that supported it and innovations that depended on it but nevertheless are essential to today's life and still people think the PC is obsolete.

 

[del35]

More media propaganda for Apple and the end of the PC nonsense. IPad, iPhone, iCloud, updated via the iTune jail. Really how dumbed-down do you think your readers are? Get a brain morons. Anyone with an IQ 80 can create their own cloud and house their files to be accessed via the web at no monthly cost beyond an initial investment of less than $200 USD. I have said numerous times, Apple is a threat to the march of technology. Imagine wasting you time debating how many angels can dance in the head of a pin-- many medieval thinkers used to do precisely that. This kind of backwardness is akin to what Apple has unleashed on the masses of technologically preliterate morons who without doing a little bit of homework want to be cool.

 

[lordstormdragon]

Precisely, Del. It's the lowest-common denominator of technological device. The stupidest, simplest possible form it can take: sold at a massive premium. Why are people so content to pay for mediocrity? The answer: because those people are stupid.

A 5GB cap for free? What, so people won't go buy $4 4GB SmartCards at Wal-Mart anymore? Preposterous. An extra GB, for free? Thanks, Apple.

Hey Marcus: write an "article" with a title like that, and you're both fishing for and deserve all the negative heat you get. It's pathetic.

 

[del35]

So what kind of iDiot buys a PC solely for syncing their smartphone?

The typical Apple user is so stupid that he probably purchased a 2 thousand dollars iCrap laptop to update his iPhone. I would not be at all surprised if Apple patents the idea of updating devices directly without connecting to a laptop or pc, something Android devices have been doing for a while now.

 

[mihaimm]

Android has similar stuff on certain areas. Like instant upload of your photos that go to Picasa as soon as you take them (and get some decent transfer rates). But... my major pain with that is that I have to download them afterwards to the PC. What's really great about iCloud is the fact that stuff gets synchronized between multiple devices, automatically, in background, without user intervention. Much like dropbox but... with a large difference. Pictures & movies you make plus anything you buy from them do not count against the 5Gb limit. My gMail account uses 900Mb and that holds ~12k emails (I have friends who send crappy movies attached instead of linking to the YouTube video)...
If iCloud works as advertised, it will be big. Really big!!! Android and WM will play catch up on that (the sooner the better). The real winners are us, consumers, since we will eventually get better synchronization on all platforms.

[citation][nom]del35[/nom]Anyone with an IQ 80 can create their own cloud and house their files to be accessed via the web at no monthly cost beyond an initial investment of less than $200 USD.[/citation] You dear sir obviously never dealt with end users if you actually believe your statement. More than 50% of end users have no idea what cloud is, what's the difference between 2Gb and 4Gb or RAM, why an SSD is faster than HDD or why i7 is better than i3 (actually for that last one they know very well: 7>3 so it's better).

[citation][nom]gallidorn[/nom]I'll be using Ubuntu One, because it gives you the same exact free service, but it works with Android, iOS, Ubuntu (linux) and Windows.[/citation]Sadly... the Androi / iPhone apps are NOT free. It's a great service and it keeps my 2 Macs and 4 Ubuntu's in perfect sync for the stuff I need. But trying to set on my Android... not so cool... Also... One has a major disadvantage on Mobile: it streams the content. I don't want it streamed... I want it synced. My Android is nice but has a tendency to drop the signal now and then, to simply give up on transmitting anything on 3G, to restart the entire network stack and so on... I may be able to wait 5 seconds to send that sms, but I won't stand for songs that stop playing or for missing files when I expect them to be there...

[citation]Post-PC/Mac Era[/citation] I was actually tempted to stop after reading the title... but then I went on just to understand what that means... Still don't have a clue...

 

[del35]

What's really great about iCloud is the fact that stuff gets synchronized between multiple devices, automatically, in background, without user intervention

You are going to spend a monthly premium for this, when there is already tons synchronization freeware available on line. Not only that, the privacy issues raised by having some litigious nefarious company like Apple have access to your private files. Remember Apple has until now been run by a arch-con-artist posing as a genius and Buddhist while hoodwinking his dumbed-down gullible fans. Can you trust Apple? The iCloud is another way of defrauding dumb people while enriching Apple's coffers. Apple has its crappy hardware manufactured for pennies abroad and then rips off dumbed-down Americans who think that a brushed aluminum case lacking connectivity makes a laptop worth more, and makes them look cool for being suckers. Its like assuming that the clothing a person wears makes his brains better. No you cant make this up.... Welcome to the Zombie world of iCrap.

 

[del35]

You dear sir obviously never dealt with end users if you actually believe your statement. More than 50% of end users have no idea what cloud is, what's the difference between 2Gb and 4Gb or RAM, why an SSD is faster than HDD or why i7 is better than i3 (actually for that last one they know very well: 7>3 so it's better).

Sorry, but that kind of ignorance is something that our schools should remedy, or that anyone can remedy by just going to youtube and watching a few videos. Not knowing what those things mean is akin to purchasing a car without knowing how to drive. That is precisely what the dumb Apple users want to do. They want to be cool without putting 2 hours of work into understanding the most fundamental things about comp. technology. Yes I know that America has some of the top mathematicians in the world, and that the typical American college graduate can't add 1/2 plus -1/3. Excuse me, but there is a price for being mildly technologically literate-- It is called doing your homework, and defrauding dumb-down people by scaring them into buying exorbitant iCrap trashdware is not the answer.

 

[watcha]

[citation][nom]del35[/nom]Sorry, but that kind of ignorance is something that our schools should remedy, or that anyone can remedy by just going to youtube and watching a few videos. Not knowing what those things mean is akin to purchasing a car without knowing how to drive. That is precisely what the dumb Apple users want to do. They want to be cool without putting 2 hours of work into understanding the most fundamental things about comp. technology. Yes I know that America has some of the top mathematicians in the world, and that the typical American college graduate can't add 1/2 plus -1/3. Excuse me, but there is a price for being mildly technologically literate-- It is called doing your homework, and defrauding dumb-down people by scaring them into buying exorbitant iCrap trashdware is not the answer.[/citation]

The original comment wasn't specific to Apple users. It includes you. Don't hate.

 

[del35]

Gallidorn is trying to make believe that someone who purchases 2 macs actually has a a clue of what Ubuntu is. Reading his post is like having an accountant who believes 3+2=6 in base 10 do your accounting.

 

[watcha]

[citation][nom]del35[/nom]You are going to spend a monthly premium for this, when there is already tons synchronization freeware available on line. Not only that, the privacy issues raised by having some litigious nefarious company like Apple have access to your private files. Remember Apple has until now been run by a arch-con-artist posing as a genius and Buddhist while hoodwinking his dumbed-down gullible fans. Can you trust Apple? The iCloud is another way of defrauding dumb people while enriching Apple's coffers. Apple has its crappy hardware manufactured for pennies abroad and then rips off dumbed-down Americans who think that a brushed aluminum case lacking connectivity makes a laptop worth more, and makes them look cool for being suckers. Its like assuming that the clothing a person wears makes his brains better. No you cant make this up.... Welcome to the Zombie world of iCrap.[/citation]

1 - There are no 'free' synchronisation tools which give you the same space as the top paid model for free - they all cost something.
2 - They don't integrate seamlessly.
3 - There is a 5GB free version (just like Dropbox).

 

[del35]

1 - There are no 'free' synchronisation tools which give you the same space as the top paid model for free - they all cost something.
2 - They don't integrate seamlessly.
3 - There is a 5GB free version (just like Dropbox).

So pay a onetime fee. Remember that just one video can take 5gb of space. Sorry there is no way you are going to convince me to hand over to Appple 20 bucks / period to house my files. That is just tooo fucking dumb and backwards, besides being dangerous.

 

[del35]

Don't hate.

I dont hate Apple. I just think it is a threat to the march of technology. I will say that they (may) have introduced some nice ideas. I like their keyboards, and their dvd rom bay on their laptops, although knowing that Apple has stolen most of its idea from others and then claimed them a the discovery of genius Mr Jobs, I am not sure that they were the ones to introduce those. Perhaps someone can post about this.

 

[back_by_demand]

[citation][nom]mm0ety[/nom]Has anyone noticed how many iPads are selling? If you say that millions of people are stupid for buying iPads and that only u are the only smart one I would bet that your probably not any older than 19.[/citation]
In the UK which of the following has had a number 1 single?
1. Bob Marley
2. Bob Dylan
3. Bob The Builder
...
That's right, Bob The Builder, the fact that a kids TV show character voice by a 3rd rate comedy actor can acheive the kind of success that the great folk singer and the godfather of reggae never managed means that Bob The Builder is obviously better right?
No.
It just means that there are huge numbers of mindless idiots prepared to pay good money to buy pointless crap, to quote Men In Black:-

A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals, and you know it.

Apple does not appeal to a person, it appeals to people, that's the difference.

 

[mihaimm]

[citation][nom]del35[/nom]Gallidorn is trying to make believe that someone who purchases 2 macs actually has a a clue of what Ubuntu is.[/citation]Dude... I do own 2 Macs, 4 Ubuntu machines and 1 Windows 7 computer. Actually 1 of the 4 Ubuntus is kind of a test machine with whatever OS I feel I wanna try today... from hackintosh to win 8 or lfs... The range of working computers starts with a P3@600Mhz that's used as a file, media & streaming server (with add-on usb3 and gigabyte eth) and ends up with a Phenom II X6 (sadly I had not invested yet in an i7 machine...). In between sit a PB Athlon II X3 & a Dell i5 laptop. The macs are an Air (2011) and a Macbook (2009) that I upgraded to 6Gb of RAM and an SSD. The Win7 is a Core 2 Dell machine. In addition to all the crap I have at home, I also do this for a living: I am a mobile apps developer for iOS, Android and BBOS (currently looking into Bada OS and WM7.5).

The point of all this is that... naming people idiots, mindless, dumb-down only because they prefer a different (desktop/mobile) OS than you proves only that you are a fanatic, without a clue of what you're talking about.

Your additional comments regarding how DropBox is better because it gives you more storage makes it clear that you don't know what you're talking about, you haven't looked at what storage is offered for free with DropBox vs iCloud, nor have you checked the pricing on paid DropBox options (9.99$/month for 50Gb) vs iCloud (100$/year for 50Gb), nor have you taken into consideration the fact that iCloud counts only storage for everything except media/software bought from Apple, photos (yes, your photos) which is not the case for DropBox (or any other similar service). As an Apple developer I have access to iCloud for quite some time and I can tell you 5Gb is quite enough (unless you have a large media collection you have not bought from Apple, which is quite possible but for a considerable percentage of people using Apple hardware is simply not the case).

 

[mm0ety]

[citation][nom]back_by_demand[/nom]In the UK which of the following has had a number 1 single?1. Bob Marley2. Bob Dylan3. Bob The Builder...That's right, Bob The Builder, the fact that a kids TV show character voice by a 3rd rate comedy actor can acheive the kind of success that the great folk singer and the godfather of reggae never managed means that Bob The Builder is obviously better right?No.It just means that there are huge numbers of mindless idiots prepared to pay good money to buy pointless crap, to quote Men In Black:-Apple does not appeal to a person, it appeals to people, that's the difference.[/citation]
You sir are proof to my statement. You think the millions of people that buy iPads are mindless idiots because they buy iPads and you are so smart and wise aren't you. I bought an iPad because I like it. I do my banking with it, I buy and sell on eBay with it which is more convenient than on a pc, I browse the web with it, I download and listen to music with it, I watch movies and YouTube videos with it, and I'd like to add that the battery life makes this thing very convenient as well as it's portability. What's that you say? But it doesn't play crysis? STFU.
P.S. If you weren't such a troll you would have realized in my original statement I never compared the iPad with any other product. If bob the builder is such a successful tv show it's because they are doing something right not because the whole world is stupid likewise the iPad.

 

[amk-aka-Phantom]

[citation][nom]mm0ety[/nom]You sir are proof to my statement. You think the millions of people that buy iPads are mindless idiots because they buy iPads and you are so smart and wise aren't you. I bought an iPad because I like it. I do my banking with it, I buy and sell on eBay with it which is more convenient than on a pc, I browse the web with it, I download and listen to music with it, I watch movies and YouTube videos with it, and I'd like to add that the battery life makes this thing very convenient as well as it's portability. What's that you say? But it doesn't play crysis? STFU. P.S. If you weren't such a troll you would have realized in my original statement I never compared the iPad with any other product. If bob the builder is such a successful tv show it's because they are doing something right not because the whole world is stupid likewise the iPad.[/citation]

Wrong. The world IS stupid. You included, since you could have done the same thing on any other tablet. Also, eBay better on tablet than on PC? GTFO troll.

 

[back_by_demand]

[citation][nom]amk-aka-phantom[/nom]Wrong. The world IS stupid. You included, since you could have done the same thing on any other tablet. Also, eBay better on tablet than on PC? GTFO troll.[/citation]
+1000
This guy just defended spending a small fortune doing basic web browsing
Then siding with a kids TV show against Bob Dylan?
Obvious troll is obvious

 

[del35]

Creationism appeals to the people.

I imagine your logic dictates we should teach creationism and not science in schools, because understanding evolution requires a tiny bit of thinking and people don't like to think. Dude, get a a brain and stop peddling your logoed junkware by citing riddles.

 

[del35]

Apple does not appeal to a person, it appeals to people, that's the difference.

I imagine your logic dictates we should teach creationism and not science in schools, because understanding evolution while true, requires a tiny bit of thinking and people don't like to think--so it is better to lie to make them feel good. Dude, get a a brain and stop peddling your inflated logoed junkware by citing riddles. Apple is an indefensible parasite that threatens open standards in technology, and the sooner we see it for what it is the safer technology will be.

 

[back_by_demand]

[citation][nom]del35[/nom]I imagine your logic dictates we should teach creationism and not science in schools, because understanding evolution while true, requires a tiny bit of thinking and people don't like to think--so it is better to lie to make them feel good. Dude, get a a brain and stop peddling your inflated logoed junkware by citing riddles. Apple is an indefensible parasite that threatens open standards in technology, and the sooner we see it for what it is the safer technology will be.[/citation]
By any chance did you just link Apple to Creationists?
Mad religeous fundamentalists that peddle their ideas based on dogma rather than scientific facts?
...
I think we have a winner!