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> It clunky on a S1, but can be done. If you want to start at, say, 7:01
> you set it for 7:05 then tell it to start recording 4 mins early.
>
> --Charlene
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I'm pretty sure I have to do it the same way on my S2. It's clunky, as
you say, but it works.

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* Charlene Charette wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
> SINNER wrote:

>> * mattack@gmail.com wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:

>>>In article <pan.2005.08.30.18.59.54.267471@TAKEOUTverizon.net>,
>>>Wes Newell <w.newell@verizon.net> wrote:

>>>>2. Can manually record to the minute, not every 5 Like my Tivo.

>>>You've been able to record in less than 5 minute increments as long as
>>>you've been able to do manual recordings on a Tivo.

>> Not on mine you cant. The time slots increment by 5 minute intervals in
>> the manual recording screen.

> It clunky on a S1, but can be done. If you want to start at, say, 7:01
> you set it for 7:05 then tell it to start recording 4 mins early.

Same on an s2 but thats not his claim, or if it his, he missed the
point.

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Directv came into my house through existing cable wiring, sounds like the
sales person might not have know what they were talking about. the
installer just wired their system into my cable company's drop or something



"Evan" <evan@indy.rr.NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks for your response.
>
> I just called DirecTv...they wanted to rewire my house and require a
> receiver box on every TV (I have 5 TVs with cable wired to 11
> locations in my house).
>
> I looked all over the Net for a unit that is a standalone DVR that
> won't have the programming...the only ones I found required the
> programming with a monthly fee (and hence rewiring the whole house
> with boxes on every TV now, Ugh).
>
> I'm thinking a simple DVR to replace one of my VCRs would do
> nicely...and maybe it'll spawn me to make the jump later to the
> programming models with the fee.
>
> But hey, I'm very used to TV Guides and generally find the shows I'm
> interested in are on at the same time of day on the same day of the
> week. I'm very used to programming my VCRs.
>
> Any idea where to get a non-Tivo DVR?
>
> TIA...
>
> Evan
>
> =======================================
>
> On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 14:45:42 GMT, Jack Zwick <jackzwick@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>In article <sho8h1dkvu5c7gl2fu2j3372422t8f9cia@4ax.com>,
>> Evan <evan@indy.rr.NOSPAM.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Do all Tivo-type machines require a monthly fee?
>>
>>
>>Yes, it provides you with your Program guide from which it may
>>automatically select your programming for you. No more hours pouring
>>over the TV listings. Most people figure out quickly it's a genuine
>>bargain for the hours per month they save.
>>
>>My Teacher wife gets "Magic School Bus" automatically recorded,
>>regardless of time or channel. Likewise, I get Futurama, regardless of
>>time or channel.
>>
>>Its $12.95/month or $300 Lifetime for a Stand-alone TiVo, great for Cable
>>
>>It's $5.99/month for a DirecTv with TiVo, regardless of how many units
>>you have, and FREE if you subscribe to the most expensive programming
>>package: Total Choice Platinum
>>>
>>> I would suppose that fee allows a connection to some service that
>>> downloads all the programming info.
>>>
>>> Why can't I use a DVR just like a VCR and do the programming myself
>>> for what channels & times I want?
>>
>>You certainly can, just buy a Panasonic unit or some such without TiVo.
>>
>>>
>>> Anyone know if a DVR is available that deosn't require a monthly fee?
>>
>>They certainly are out there, but anyone who has used TiVo any amount of
>>time quickly decides they will never give it up.
>>
>>>
>>> TIA....
>>>
>>> Evan
>>> Indy
>>
>>Local DISH installers refer to their DVR as "Just like TiVo", it
>>certainly is not except for a few ways that are enough for them to be
>>sued by TiVo for patent infringement.
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"Wes Newell" <w.newell@TAKEOUTverizon.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 17:27:28 +0000, Mike Hunt wrote:
>
>> On 2005-08-30, Evan <evan@indy.rr.NOSPAM.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone know if a DVR is available that deosn't require a monthly fee?
>>
>> People always say they are around but I cannot fathom why one would get
>> one when one could just get a TiVo.
>
> Well, here's some reasons for you based strickly on the RCA DRS7000N I
> picked up for $100 to go along with my Tivo.
>
> 1. Don't need a phone connection to get guide service (which is free) or
> set the clock. Having to make a call to set the clock on the Tivo is a
> real pita, especially if you don't have a land line. I can set the RCA
> either manually, or set it for automatic OTA.
>

which tivo are you using? Mine uses the pbs channel to set its clock


> 2. Can manually record to the minute, not every 5 Like my Tivo.

never use manual record, but tivo recors 1-5 minutes over in the record by
name options and then in increments of 5


>
> 3. Has built in DVD player. Movies/picture cd's,etc.


got tivo networked, music, pictures, already have a dvd player for movies

>
> 4. Built in memory card slot. Although this didn't concern me.
>
> 5. If I use the guide service to record a show by name, it automatically
> records 1 minute prior and 1 minute past the setting. I've never missed
> the start or ending of a show that has ran over a little if there wasn't a
> recording conflict.

takes 1 or 2 button pushes to change this, then warns me if I'll miss
another show

>
> 6. During playback, I can pause the show and jump to any hour, minute, and
> even second of the recording and restart playback there.


remembers where I stopped watching if I decide halfway through to watch
another recording

>
> 7. If I accidently change channels (as I've done many times with Tivo),
> you don't lose the buffer like you do with Tivo. The 45 minute buffer will
> follow all channel changes and you play them all back.

don't sit on the remote often enough for this to be an issue :)


maybe you are not using your tivo to its fullest?


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> I'm sure there's more, but that's the most important ones I can think of
> right now.
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On 2005-09-02, Wes Newell <w.newell@TAKEOUTverizon.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 19:08:13 -0700, mattack wrote:
>
>> It used to be that you couldn't *end late* by 1, 2, 3, 4 minutes (and
>> still is for those of us with series 1s).
>
> I've got a series 1 without a sub. Extending the recording doesn't work
> properly. I don't know about starting 1 minute early, but that would still
> be a seperate setting you would have to set in addition to the original
> recording.

All the more reason to use TiVoWebPlus which gives you an easy interface
to this capability and so much more.

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In article <lorlu2x983.ln2@news.gates-of-hell.com>,
SINNER <99nesorjd@gates_of_hell.invalid> wrote:
>* Charlene Charette wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
>> SINNER wrote:
>
>>> * mattack@gmail.com wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
>
>>>>In article <pan.2005.08.30.18.59.54.267471@TAKEOUTverizon.net>,
>>>>Wes Newell <w.newell@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>>>>2. Can manually record to the minute, not every 5 Like my Tivo.
>
>>>>You've been able to record in less than 5 minute increments as long as
>>>>you've been able to do manual recordings on a Tivo.
>
>>> Not on mine you cant. The time slots increment by 5 minute intervals in
>>> the manual recording screen.
>
>> It clunky on a S1, but can be done. If you want to start at, say, 7:01
>> you set it for 7:05 then tell it to start recording 4 mins early.
>
>Same on an s2 but thats not his claim, or if it his, he missed the
>point.

I didn't miss the point at all. With the exception that I already explained
about padding the end time on series 1s, you have always been able to
record in less than 5 minute increments..

You simply set the 'main' recording time in 5 minute increments, then use the
start and end padding appropriately. Since you can use padding on manual
recordings too, including repeating manual recordings, it gives you the
ability to record in NON-5 minute increments. QED.
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In article <fupku2xftr.ln2@news.gates-of-hell.com>,
SINNER <99nesorjd@gates_of_hell.invalid> wrote:
>* mattack@gmail.com wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
>> In article <pan.2005.08.30.18.59.54.267471@TAKEOUTverizon.net>,
>> Wes Newell <w.newell@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>2. Can manually record to the minute, not every 5 Like my Tivo.
>
>> You've been able to record in less than 5 minute increments as long as
>> you've been able to do manual recordings on a Tivo.
>
>Not on mine you cant. The time slots increment by 5 minute intervals in
>the manual recording screen.

Yes, but then you use the exact same interface as any other recording to set
the padding.

The "entire" recording ends up being done in non-5 minute increments, in two
steps for initial setup.
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On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 18:46:09 -0700, mattack wrote:

> In article <fupku2xftr.ln2@news.gates-of-hell.com>,
>>Not on mine you cant. The time slots increment by 5 minute intervals in
>>the manual recording screen.
>
> Yes, but then you use the exact same interface as any other recording to set
> the padding.
>
> The "entire" recording ends up being done in non-5 minute increments, in two
> steps for initial setup.

The padding doesn't work properly my S1 non subscribed unit. If I manually
start a recording and then edit the end time for 30 more minutes (for 1
hour total), it won't do it. As this is a pita anyway I don't use it at
all anymore.

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In article <pan.2005.09.07.07.30.30.265507@TAKEOUTverizon.net>,
Wes Newell <w.newell@verizon.net> wrote:
>On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 18:46:09 -0700, mattack wrote:
>
>> In article <fupku2xftr.ln2@news.gates-of-hell.com>,
>>>Not on mine you cant. The time slots increment by 5 minute intervals in
>>>the manual recording screen.
>>
>> Yes, but then you use the exact same interface as any other recording to set
>> the padding.
>>
>> The "entire" recording ends up being done in non-5 minute increments, in two
>> steps for initial setup.
>
>The padding doesn't work properly my S1 non subscribed unit. If I manually
>start a recording and then edit the end time for 30 more minutes (for 1
>hour total), it won't do it. As this is a pita anyway I don't use it at
>all anymore.

Do you mean a "manual recording", or hitting record during a show?

Oh, mine is subscribed. I wonder if you have an older version of the
software? If you're not even hooked up to a phone line, you may have missed
the last (loooong ago) update.

But I definitely have padding on manual recordings that work (I record
a chunk of World News Now in the middle of the night as a repeating manual
recording. That way it's easier to get to the entertaining last 15 mins of
each half hour.. Normally the recording starts at :06, so the tickmarks don't
match up. Plus it's only a 90 minute show repeated several times. So my way
I get only the ~75 mins that I care about.)
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On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 19:17:20 -0700, mattack wrote:

> Wes Newell <w.newell@verizon.net> wrote:
>>The padding doesn't work properly my S1 non subscribed unit. If I manually
>>start a recording and then edit the end time for 30 more minutes (for 1
>>hour total), it won't do it. As this is a pita anyway I don't use it at
>>all anymore.
>
> Do you mean a "manual recording", or hitting record during a show?
>
A manual recording for sure. If I had a recording set for 1 hour, and
wanted to add 30 minutes to it, it won't work. Now if a add 2 hours to it,
it will record longer, but I'm not sure when it stopped. Couldn't trust it
so I don't use it anymore.

> Oh, mine is subscribed. I wonder if you have an older version of the
> software? If you're not even hooked up to a phone line, you may have
> missed the last (loooong ago) update.
>
I still have to call in to get the clock set so I have the latest software
version. 3.1.0.1 or something like that.

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On 2005-09-09, Wes Newell <w.newell@TAKEOUTverizon.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 19:17:20 -0700, mattack wrote:
>
>> Wes Newell <w.newell@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>The padding doesn't work properly my S1 non subscribed unit. If I manually
>>>start a recording and then edit the end time for 30 more minutes (for 1
>>>hour total), it won't do it. As this is a pita anyway I don't use it at
>>>all anymore.
>>
>> Do you mean a "manual recording", or hitting record during a show?
>>
> A manual recording for sure. If I had a recording set for 1 hour, and
> wanted to add 30 minutes to it, it won't work. Now if a add 2 hours to it,
> it will record longer, but I'm not sure when it stopped. Couldn't trust it
> so I don't use it anymore.

I do some manual recording on my SA1 and have never seen ANY problems with
it.

>
>> Oh, mine is subscribed. I wonder if you have an older version of the
>> software? If you're not even hooked up to a phone line, you may have
>> missed the last (loooong ago) update.
>>
> I still have to call in to get the clock set so I have the latest software
> version. 3.1.0.1 or something like that.
>


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