Best 32-40 inch Tv - Hertz/Refresh/HD

FlewDesigns

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Hello,

I have a LG lg 32ld350 32 inch 1080p TV from 2010.
Now...

The picture is pretty excellent already. for xbox the input lag is almost none, the
sound is great. The picture on TV/virgin box is pretty good with clear faces and no blurring.

Now.. I purchased a Sony Bravia KDL 705c.. and out of the box it was very bad. I put in the virgin box and the faces sort of merged together blurring andpixelated.

So now my question...

Why in gods name is a tv 6 years old better than a tv from last year?
and is there anything that can beat it or are all 1080p tvs going to be the same?

I wanted to get a 40 inch tv because this has a 2 inch bevel at 32 inches so thought
i could get away with 40 inches in my room.


Any help on choices?
i asked people at a currys shop and richersounds and there answers from both were
"well... sometimes tvs are made better first with better panels and then downgraded and made slimmer to look good. possibly why your current tv looks great already'' (my summary)


So any ideas?
 

photonboy

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Hey,
You can go to Amazon to just look at customer feedback for specific models to get a good idea. Add in links to latency, blur databases as well.

I'd look for one with a GAMING mode option, because that's optimized to disable unnecessary post-processing to minimize input latency, or just make sure input latency is low (24ms or lower is great).

*I still don't understand what's going on with the "not clear faces" since I've never seen anything like that aside from choosing the wrong settings, but I guess I'll just have to take your word for it.

For the record I've got a pretty old Sony Bravia 32" (2008?) and it works great with my PC, BluRay, and media player. There's no weird colors or fuzziness in the slightest.

*I'd suggest 40" for sure over 32".

I haven't checked THIS HDTV to see what the input latency is, however the average customer review score is very good:
http://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronics-39LB5600-39-Inch-1080p/dp/B00KVLQURA/ref=sr_1_13?s=tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1453978610&sr=1-13&refinements=p_n_size_browse-bin%3A3578041011%2Cp_n_feature_keywords_three_browse-bin%3A7688789011%2Cp_36%3A25000-40000#Ask

Other points:
1) 120Hz/240Hz modes should never be used for gaming (sports videos mainly). There are hacks to get 120Hz for PC if supported but that's not what you're asking about.

2) PC mode - some HDTV's offer a separate input, perhaps DVI which then runs through a scaler thus effectively creating a monitor scenario where you use normal desktop resolution settings and games can modify the resolution. It's a nice way to go if supported.

Otherwise, you have to use the normal HDMI input and setup in the HDTV section for PC (or the 1080p default for game consoles etc as they are already HDTV settings)

3) Speakers - investigate audio quality

4) Smart TV - do you need this functionality, and if so do you want NETFLIX or similar support? (otherwise you can get similar on console etc but I thought I should mention it)

5) HDMI inputs? (some have TWO only)

Other quick HDTV links:
Sony 2014 - http://www.amazon.com/Sony-KDL40W600B-40-Inch-1080p-Smart/dp/B00HPMCO46/ref=sr_1_16?s=tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1453978610&sr=1-16&refinements=p_n_size_browse-bin%3A3578041011%2Cp_n_feature_keywords_three_browse-bin%3A7688789011%2Cp_36%3A25000-40000

Samsung 2014 - http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-UN40H5003-40-Inch-Measured-Diagonally/dp/B00MYBR75O/ref=sr_1_36?s=tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1453979252&sr=1-36&refinements=p_n_size_browse-bin%3A3578041011%2Cp_n_feature_keywords_three_browse-bin%3A7688789011%2Cp_36%3A25000-40000

Samsung 2014 - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IDXB1W2/ref=psdc_6459737011_t3_B00U5ZT8OO

INPUT LAG DATABASE: http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/input-lag

Another database (lag, blur..): http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-usage/video-gaming/best
 

photonboy

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I don't think you have the Sony setup properly.

Try a different input such as a DVD player (preferably using HDMI input), or see if there's something in the virgin settings related to video. I don't know what a "virgin" box is so can't speculate why the picture looks like that.
 

koffeeshop77

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bravia software enhancement is no good.

i had a 55 inch bravia for a while thought hey it looks good, ... but i could not open 2 doors in my room so i switched to an LG 46" the pic was way better buy like light years even though the bravais is/ was more expensive.

now the best i have seen picture wise is samsung, but they are also expensive AF. rightly so. and also very sleek they just look and feel the part.
now the best advice i have for you is to buy a vizio TV also very good and well rounded tvs. come with all the features a samy would come with, often at half the price.
the LCD/LED screens or more then likely made at the same manufacture anyway either LG or sammy or sony, (phillips also uses LG displays fyi) vizio also uses true 120hz not some fake stuff that is like motion blur (SONY) that makes you sick so yeah try a vizio. they have come very very far since the last time you bought your LG TV and you wont be disappointed
 

FlewDesigns

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V+ HD Box i believe it is. i tried all the settings and i got it reasonably well but not enough for me to change my current 6 year old tv for it.
 

FlewDesigns

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Thanks Ill look into it.

 

koffeeshop77

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i would also like to make a quick second stament.
you had a 32' 1080 LG
and moved up to Sony
40 INCH 1080 so you also lost pixel density. which may no seem like much but when you square it it is a whole lot of extra pixels that are being magnifed 1080 32 vs 1080 40
and it may alos make a difrence if you other screen was a glossy screen or not.
my bravia had a matt finsh where as he LG had a glossy finsh and made the diffreince of night and day when looking at the screen.

and the
Motionflow XR200 and X-Reality Pro
in the braiva = needs to be TURNED OFF is crapp.

hz,size, everything else set aside. ...
 

FlewDesigns

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Hi it was 32 inch again ha =)

I turned off the xreality pro and it did help a little but was still not clear sharp faces and clear sharp detail it was just..... normal quality like any tv could do this from 2000-2015 makes.

So no suggestions on a great 32-40 inch tv with low input lag and great picture?
 

photonboy

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Hey,
You can go to Amazon to just look at customer feedback for specific models to get a good idea. Add in links to latency, blur databases as well.

I'd look for one with a GAMING mode option, because that's optimized to disable unnecessary post-processing to minimize input latency, or just make sure input latency is low (24ms or lower is great).

*I still don't understand what's going on with the "not clear faces" since I've never seen anything like that aside from choosing the wrong settings, but I guess I'll just have to take your word for it.

For the record I've got a pretty old Sony Bravia 32" (2008?) and it works great with my PC, BluRay, and media player. There's no weird colors or fuzziness in the slightest.

*I'd suggest 40" for sure over 32".

I haven't checked THIS HDTV to see what the input latency is, however the average customer review score is very good:
http://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronics-39LB5600-39-Inch-1080p/dp/B00KVLQURA/ref=sr_1_13?s=tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1453978610&sr=1-13&refinements=p_n_size_browse-bin%3A3578041011%2Cp_n_feature_keywords_three_browse-bin%3A7688789011%2Cp_36%3A25000-40000#Ask

Other points:
1) 120Hz/240Hz modes should never be used for gaming (sports videos mainly). There are hacks to get 120Hz for PC if supported but that's not what you're asking about.

2) PC mode - some HDTV's offer a separate input, perhaps DVI which then runs through a scaler thus effectively creating a monitor scenario where you use normal desktop resolution settings and games can modify the resolution. It's a nice way to go if supported.

Otherwise, you have to use the normal HDMI input and setup in the HDTV section for PC (or the 1080p default for game consoles etc as they are already HDTV settings)

3) Speakers - investigate audio quality

4) Smart TV - do you need this functionality, and if so do you want NETFLIX or similar support? (otherwise you can get similar on console etc but I thought I should mention it)

5) HDMI inputs? (some have TWO only)

Other quick HDTV links:
Sony 2014 - http://www.amazon.com/Sony-KDL40W600B-40-Inch-1080p-Smart/dp/B00HPMCO46/ref=sr_1_16?s=tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1453978610&sr=1-16&refinements=p_n_size_browse-bin%3A3578041011%2Cp_n_feature_keywords_three_browse-bin%3A7688789011%2Cp_36%3A25000-40000

Samsung 2014 - http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-UN40H5003-40-Inch-Measured-Diagonally/dp/B00MYBR75O/ref=sr_1_36?s=tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1453979252&sr=1-36&refinements=p_n_size_browse-bin%3A3578041011%2Cp_n_feature_keywords_three_browse-bin%3A7688789011%2Cp_36%3A25000-40000

Samsung 2014 - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IDXB1W2/ref=psdc_6459737011_t3_B00U5ZT8OO

INPUT LAG DATABASE: http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/input-lag

Another database (lag, blur..): http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-usage/video-gaming/best
 
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