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I've never really understood why people aren't willing to take low income jobs untill something better comes along. I sold insurance and was making good money, market crashes, I go in the hole from people dropping their policies. I spend a year working at a hotel, then finally get a job in the field which I got my degree in.

$405 a week though, that's more per week than someone making minimum wage. I don't understand that, if she has kids, it's understandable, otherwise, she should have to scale her lifestyle down further.
 
I've only had to depend on unemployment benefits once for approx. 2-3 months. Where I live, the amount you get is based on how much you've paid to social security in previous tax years, so you are only mooching off your own contributions. Also, you have to report at least four different job applications in your field of work per week, or you won't get any benefits for that week. In addition, they take income taxes out of your benefits. So, you are definitely motivated to find something quickly.

It's ridiculous to say that someone who is unemployed should go flip burgers. You aren't required to do that by the state because they understand that you need to find a job that is 1) in your field, and 2) something close to your qualified pay scale. Ultimately you will be contributing far more back to the gov't than what they are paying you for unemployment. As long as you are actively seeking employment, then you should be allowed to benefit from your past hard work.

As for this girl, she shouldn't have reported the money as others have said. Most likely she'll start receiving benefits again, but she'll have to suffer a bit while the bureaucrats sort things out.
 
[citation][nom]IndyColts99[/nom]Judging by the comments on here, I can tell a lot of you have never been on unemployment.As far as unemployment benefits "coming out" of working peoples pockets, um, no. It's unemployment insurance that the employer pays, at least that's the way it is in Florida[/citation]

This is how it works in Canada as well.

Many people also claim other Government assistance as well, which does come out of our tax monies.

I have to agree with a few people on here... this girl should get her ass into the local Mc Puke's and work for min wage. Shes holding out for a great job. SHES A DAMN LAWYER! no jobs out there?
 
[citation][nom]grieve[/nom]Shes holding out for a great job. SHES A DAMN LAWYER! no jobs out there?[/citation]This might just give us some insight on why there are so many frivolous lawsuits. Lawyers are feeling the pinch just like everyone else and will do anything to keep the funds rolling in.
 
[citation][nom]blarneypete[/nom]Here's the thing that makes me upset.She's been laid off for six months and she can't find a job in that time because she's looking for a paralegal job.I have a problem with her receiving my dollars when she spends six months "looking for a job". Go flip burgers or something! Go earn SOME money while seeking out that specific job type you really want. But do SOMETHING, don't just sit on your fat ass holding out for a job that may never happen. If you have time to blog, and blog well enough to get enough ad impressions to earn $40/month blogging, you damn well have enough time to ring up my cup of coffee at a convenience store.[/citation]


Aww poor girl. Am I supposed to feel sorry for her?
 
[citation][nom]the_krasno[/nom]You can't live with so little money, cut the girl some slack! But now that I think of it, she IS a lawyer.I'm torn between my sympathy for the economic troubled people and my hatred of lawyers.[/citation]

She can't just take any job- you can count on the fact that she needs to work as a lawyer to pay off school loans. flipping burgers won't cut it. And while paying off said loans, she isn't living big. Even if she makes $!00k a year, her disposable income is going to probably be less than that burger flipper that lives with mom. And lets not forget that the job flipping burgers is probably getting a lot of applications. most fast food and retail managers will tell this lawyer she's overqualified.
 
[citation]SHES A DAMN LAWYER! no jobs out there?[/citation]
There are thousands of lawyers out of work, if not tens of thousands, most with more qualifications and job experience than this recent grad. And it's not easy to get a job as a lawyer by the way. I do feel sorry for her, as I do with any one out of work who's looking for it. There are always external factors that come in to play when one determines whether a job is suitable for a person or not. A lot of times, you just can't take anything or taking a job will end up costing a person more than just not working.
 
[citation][nom]johnny1[/nom]...especially if it takes them away from preparing for long and grueling interviews. Yes, professional interviews last in the HOURS, not minutes.Nut up or shut up. nuff said.[/citation]

I'm not a lawyer, I'm a sysadmin. But I remember my interview for my current job. 8 hours straight with 7 people because people had schedules to keep and didn't care about mine- I needed to be available when they were. I got my personality assessed (which I sorta turned against them, given I have a degree in Psychology), given technical tests, designed sample solutions, and all kinds of other crap. That sucked. But I did get an offer by 8:30pm...
 
Who would hire a lawyer were she is over-qualified. I if being an employer would feel a bit worried about hiring someone with knowledge of the law...

lawsuit anyone?
 
[citation][nom]fatedtodie[/nom]"Do i feel sympathy for people that can't do that or don't have skills? nope.[/citation]
Good for you, but some people can't search nationally or even outside their immediate region- they are tied to an area due to family ties, or don't want to uproot their kids from good schools where they're flourishing. Or they can't sell their house (or don't want to). Not everyone can be as flexible as you are.
 
[citation][nom]cscott_it[/nom]I've never really understood why people aren't willing to take low income jobs untill something better comes along. I sold insurance and was making good money, market crashes, I go in the hole from people dropping their policies. I spend a year working at a hotel, then finally get a job in the field which I got my degree in.$405 a week though, that's more per week than someone making minimum wage. I don't understand that, if she has kids, it's understandable, otherwise, she should have to scale her lifestyle down further.[/citation]

You don't get the maximum benefit automatically. You need to earn a certain amount for a certain amount of time to get the maximum benefit. In any case, it's quite a shock to be making even $50,000 a year (not uncommon in NYC or SF) and then have to all of a sudden scale back to the equivalent of half that. Imagine how tough it would be to work your way up to being a $100k earner who had to scale back to 25% of their salary even if you weren't extravagant, living well within your means, saving for retirement- your financial plans are going to get decimated as you look for a new job. Generally, when you gain employment you generally believe it will last a while- it's the only way to make big purchases like a home or even a car. So for those that lose a job they need, I do feel a great deal of sympathy, regardless of how much they made.
 
[citation][nom]blarneypete[/nom]Here's the thing that makes me upset.She's been laid off for six months and she can't find a job in that time because she's looking for a paralegal job.I have a problem with her receiving my dollars when she spends six months "looking for a job". Go flip burgers or something! Go earn SOME money while seeking out that specific job type you really want. But do SOMETHING, don't just sit on your fat ass holding out for a job that may never happen. If you have time to blog, and blog well enough to get enough ad impressions to earn $40/month blogging, you damn well have enough time to ring up my cup of coffee at a convenience store.[/citation]


you know what, fuck you, ive been unemployed for a year, and i cant even find a job here in florida flipping burgers. its nasty fucks like you with your selfish thinking as to why we have this situation. and as to your dollars paying unemployment, you truly are a fucking idiot. just by having a job you are paying into your own unemployment, that and your last employer pay it. thats why some poeple get more than others, it depend on what you put in.

i only hope you have to walk a mile in our shoes, and this situation is terrible to wish on anyone.
 
There’s an amazing amount of negative emotion going around here for a person who not only started a blog to try and make cash, but then honestly reported it, only to have the hammer come down on her. We have created a system that pays more to not work or not even try, and punish those who make extra effort instead of rewarding them for it.
While many people could find work if they were willing to relocate, I don't think most posters here have experienced being overqualified for a position, and that is fueling this ignorance. No manager at McDonalds is going to hire her. He is fully aware that she is going to jump ship as soon as a real job pops up, and then he has to hire and train someone else. He also does not want someone more qualified than he is, to make him look bad, or threaten his position. He does not want someone who is going to analyze how things are run, form opinions, and spread them. He wants robot burger makers who will stay there forever, be clean, and not late.
Fast food is also the type of mindless repetitive work that is much more stressful on an educated mind than it is for people of lower intellect and knowledge. I'm not saying that out of hubris, in fact I consider it a burden. My dog is a lot happier than I am most of the time, and most people I know. Mongoloids are a happy bunch in general as long as their basic needs are met.
Just as rape can leave a scar in the mind which never heals after though the physical wounds are gone, an active inquisitive mind which is aware of its potential and the banality of its existence is a form of torture in and of itself. You can "sack-up" for a while, and I think you can learn something from _any_ job, but after a while it will stagnate and start having adverse negative psychological effects on some. Those jobs are intended to be transient and stop-gap, not career day goals for retirement.
Also, everyone can't be like everyone else. Not everyone has an Iron will. That is the beauty of the human condition and that which makes meeting others and sharing ideas worth the effort. Like a wild horse that is broken, some people can snap and never come back from it. Some things cant be unseen, and some events cannot be forgotten. There is no single "right" way to be when it comes to the human condition, it's biologically, socially, and philosophically impossible.
Even a total nut job can stumble upon a valuable idea, and that might be his only contribution to society in his whole life, but if the idea is important enough, it just might be worth it.
I live with constant explosions, gore, violence and death. Then I forward videos to decision makers from captured militants which contain gruesome Islamic-Death-Cult media files and rantings about Allah. Then I go have lunch.
Swap me with Einstein and he might have withdrawn into a hermit state and never made a contribution to Science. Swap me with Caligula and I might be having more fun.
That being said, I'm from the Gulf Coast of Mississippi, and I decided that it wasn't the place for me to thrive professionally. I joined the Army, went around the world a few times, got married a notch or two above my station to a lovely girl from Finland, and am currently sitting in Afghanistan as I write this, as a civilian this time around. She is in Iraq wearing a uniform.
I make more than anyone in my family, but I didn’t forget where I was from, and I didn’t forget that the best way to have money is to not spend it. The national savings level plummeted since the 80s, and that coupled with the credit bubble left a lot of people over extended.
I had a plan, and 95% of it has worked very well for me. I also had backup plans, and then tertiary backups. This lawyers plan did not work, but she's trying.
It's hard to put yourself in someone else’s shoes, because you view the world from different eyes, but it should be easy to at least admit that things aren’t always so black and white. We live in a world with varying shades of gray.
Lastly, it's really funny to hear people talk about others balking about their "tax money" helping others. No one is an island, and I pay more in taxes than most people make in a year; I also put my arse on the line for it, but that's my call to make. Everyone wants to whine about bailing someone out. But you forget that your apples come from Washington State. Your purchased goods come from ports in California, Louisiana, and the Eastern Seaboard.
So when your bailing out Katrina victims, you’re really bailing yourself out; just because you aren’t able to draw a direct line between their contributions to these United States and your own tax dollars does not mean there is no link, it just means that this "perfect union" we are striving for is a spiders web of massive proportions, and oversimplifications of complicated issues is not helping matters. It’s not the helping that people dislike, it’s how poorly we manage to execute everything and the waste that comes with it. Most of our politicians are born of nepotism and aren’t really qualified to do anything but win popularity contests (that’s what we call elections).
In Norway, their government is not allowed to run a deficit. They can only spend what they have, and are required to save a certain amount per year for emergencies. They also have socialized most services, have much higher education rates, lower STD and teen pregnancy rates, and pay out $1600 a month for perpetual unemployment. They decided that human misery should not be turned into a dollar sign. Guess what? Less than 2% of people use their unemployment there. Norway just invested about $350B in OUR country because they expect their investment to go up when we recover.
They also treat drugs as a medical problem instead of a law enforcement problem, and their prisons aren’t full of non-violent offenders. A surprising amount of "druggies" are trying to self medicate because they've never had access to proper medical care, and it's proven that keeping someone off the streets (even by paying their rent) is, in total, WAY cheaper than letting them go down the rabbit hole and end up living in a box. I want cost effective plans, not “moral” absolutes which might make you feel better, but the math proves ineffective.
With prisons paying 38k per prisoner, I think a major rethink of how we operate is in order, because it would only cost 14k per year for the average persons rent, and we save a lot more by keeping those kids in school and out of soup kitchens. Future productivity needs to be taken into account.
I’m not making a case for that system here, as Americans would abuse it to death, but am suggesting that implementation is more important than ideology in many cases. Our polarized socio-industrial-government complex makes fertile ground for each side to make an initiative, and have the other side either not fund it or regulate it to death in an attempt to prove that they were right and that get another vote.
Simply taxing pot would solve so many problems, yet people resist it because of their personal aversion to its use. It's a ton safer for everyone than alcohol, and no one is making you use it. It would erase the black market which funds crime, and make quality control and education available so people know what their getting into.
Giving things forbidden fruit status and denying information, be it birth control or recreational chemicals, is not a solution. It's simply the lesser of two evils, since their not going anywhere. Ever wonder why we have tax “brackets” and not a floating point system?
Ever wonder why we don’t just tax businesses and purchases instead of income itself? Tracking 8 million businesses is a lot easier than making every worker try and figure out what they owe, year after year. It’s a zero sum game, with artificial markets and people producing 0 net gain at the IRS.
Once people realize that just because they decide that an opinion, option, choice, or decision is not right for them and their family is not cause to prevent others from making that decision for themselves, we will be a lot better off.
So instead of complaining about this lawyer trying to *gasp* turn a buck and work somewhere near her ability level (lets not forget that at your next interview, telling them you currently work at McDonalds is NOT going to get you hired), why not turn your flaming ire at the companies that have gotten “to big to fail” and the people that enable them.
This “recession” is actually capitalism self correcting itself after years of artificially inflated profits because companies thing that they can make infinite gains instead of being happy with a stable, responsible growth rate – and be willing to focus elsewhere when a market is saturated instead of trying to get subsidies and tax credits to further gorge themselves like a mouse on an orgasm button.
Corporate welfare costs way more than individual welfare, so if you got this far, congratulations, and FLAME ON!
 
So far as I remember IBM (I think it was) made new MBA grads start in the mailroom. Two reasons for this:

1) The grad got a good look at all the parts of the company and how it runs and
2) IBM quickly weeded out the snobs with an "I'm too good for the mailroom" attitude (note that they were looking at the attitude and not the aptitude).

Most people on here are talking like we're still in the industrial age; as though having a law degree makes her too good for something.

In the current (information) age, you can be quite easily replaced with someone from India who makes 20% of what you do (the secretaries of many American executives are based in India).

Those who would turn down a "lower" job because they think their qualifications somehow entitle them to a higher-paying job probably don't realise that that industrial-age thinking will suffocate them finacially in the information age. The rules have changed now...

 
[citation][nom]VioMeTriX[/nom]you know what, fuck you, ive been unemployed for a year, and i cant even find a job here in florida flipping burgers. its nasty fucks like you with your selfish thinking as to why we have this situation. and as to your dollars paying unemployment, you truly are a fucking idiot. just by having a job you are paying into your own unemployment, that and your last employer pay it. thats why some poeple get more than others, it depend on what you put in.i only hope you have to walk a mile in our shoes, and this situation is terrible to wish on anyone.[/citation]

Over the years I have learned one thing. Those that do not want to work, will not work. What is your problem? Unemployed for over a year and cannot find a job flipping burgers???? What kind of a social degenerate are you? I was unemployed for two months, I could not find a job in IT anywhere. So I took a job as a pipe-fitter's helper. Grinding Iron for 16 hours a day, not including the hour commute, leaving me with one fucking hour a day to spend with my family, eat, and job search. I can't stand it when people whine about not finding a job, YOU ARE NOT TRYING HARD ENOUGH!! It is people like you that are a drain on the economy, constantly sucking up tax payers dollars simply because you have too much pride to work somewhere that you might get a little dirty or something you might not like. Suck it up, take any job you can find. Just because you are employed does not mean you have to stop looking.
 
[citation][nom]montezuma[/nom]Listen, you fucking retard, as I am only going to say this once; when you have spent as much time, as this Karen has, in school, you do not "go flip hamburgers". If she wanted to reduce herself to such a thing, there are many fast food restaurants, along with many other "stupid people" jobs that will look past her resume.You do not put someone with intelligence and good work ethic into a shit job that all the morons in this world can do. Yeah, I might sound like a prick or a snob, but I refuse to waste my intelligence and hard work on a shit job. I also see no problem with this woman getting unemployment. She paid her taxes, and probably paid more in a month than you do in a year.If I have paid a shit ton in taxes, then I expect to be able to live on the government when I fall on hard times. When I find a job to replace the one I lost, then that expectation goes away.Why should I have to pay for lazy assholes to sit on their ass all day, doing the same thing they have their entire life(nothing), then listen to idiots, like yourself, tell me that I cannot reap some of the money I put into the pot?[/citation]

Jesus Christ on a cracker dude calm the fuck down. No one said she should work there peramantly. You are looking at this like a career change. Honestly, has not one here ever had to take a job they did not like because unemployment was not cutting it. Maybe some of you jackasses should be put on the streets. Yes the economy blows, no there may not be enough jobs for your career choice at this time, but don't just sit there and wait for something to come along. No wonder Americans are hated across the world. It is obvious that we think think everyone owes us something because we live in a country that used to be considered the greatest country in the world. Earn your keep people. Even if that means digging ditches, flipping burger, working construction, or mowing peoples lawns. Bunch of lazy, arrogant, degenerate, assholes. This country is turning into on massive steaming slab of excrement. It's not the fault of Congress, Obama, or Bush. It is people like you.
 
Wow! The comments flying on this one.

1. The is no indication that she is a lawyer. She has a law degree and she worked at a NYC law firm and is now studying to take the bar exam in Missouri. That is it. A law degree does not make you a lawyer you have to pass the bar exam for the specific state in which you wish to be a lawyer in. Just cause she worked at a NYC law firm does not mean she was a practicing lawyer. So all the comments I see putting her down i.e. she's a lawyer and can't find a job?. Well based on the information she is not.

2. For all those that say get a burger flipping job you lazy women, well I got news for you. It is not that simple. I was unemployed for about a year and I tried getting jobs at burger joints, Starbucks, you name it. Here is the exact quote "Well, your just overqualified." Yes it does happen a lot with people who have degrees and/or lots of experience. For those with neither, I suspect that is probably a good portion of the flip burgers crowd here, it is much simpler. Why? The employer at those places knows that you can do the job, but also knows that you will be looking for another job in you spare time and will leave at the drop of hat as soon as you get one, however the the high school kid and/or college kid more than likely will not cause they really just need a job for money for school and/or first experience and will probably stay for a while based on their current lack of experience and/or education. They will just get more time out of a high school kid, day laborer, or college freshman.
 
[citation][nom]Parrdacc[/nom]Wow! The comments flying on this one.1. The is no indication that she is a lawyer. She has a law degree and she worked at a NYC law firm and is now studying to take the bar exam in Missouri. That is it. A law degree does not make you a lawyer you have to pass the bar exam for the specific state in which you wish to be a lawyer in. Just cause she worked at a NYC law firm does not mean she was a practicing lawyer. So all the comments I see putting her down i.e. she's a lawyer and can't find a job?. Well based on the information she is not.2. For all those that say get a burger flipping job you lazy women, well I got news for you. It is not that simple. I was unemployed for about a year and I tried getting jobs at burger joints, Starbucks, you name it. Here is the exact quote "Well, your just overqualified." Yes it does happen a lot with people who have degrees and/or lots of experience. For those with neither, I suspect that is probably a good portion of the flip burgers crowd here, it is much simpler. Why? The employer at those places knows that you can do the job, but also knows that you will be looking for another job in you spare time and will leave at the drop of hat as soon as you get one, however the the high school kid and/or college kid more than likely will not cause they really just need a job for money for school and/or first experience and will probably stay for a while based on their current lack of experience and/or education. They will just get more time out of a high school kid, day laborer, or college freshman.[/citation]
Thank you for one of the (unfortunately) few-and-far-between sensible posts.

Clearly, there is a lot of emotion around this subject and I hope that everyone, despite how confident in their assessment, can be receptive to different perspectives for insight.
 
[citation][nom]blarneypete[/nom]Here's the thing that makes me upset.She's been laid off for six months and she can't find a job in that time because she's looking for a paralegal job.I have a problem with her receiving my dollars when she spends six months "looking for a job". Go flip burgers or something! Go earn SOME money while seeking out that specific job type you really want. But do SOMETHING, don't just sit on your fat ass holding out for a job that may never happen. If you have time to blog, and blog well enough to get enough ad impressions to earn $40/month blogging, you damn well have enough time to ring up my cup of coffee at a convenience store.[/citation]

I don't usually call people names but I'm so close to calling you a simplistic idiot! Without taking into account the dynamics of work cost ratio you simply expect an educated to flip burgers while waiting for a job, which I might isn't a job but a career unlike flipping burgers. Flipping burgers as you describe it depends greatly on what type of establishment, fast food or traditional. Fast food only pays slightly better then minimum wage ($2.00 more). The cost of commuting this day and age would probably eat up that money alone, never mind housing, clothing, etc. So where is the incentive, and don't say overtime. At a regular restaurant she may make a living but she have to put in the hours and negate her flexibility to look for a position in her chosen career and also diminish her skill set. Also take into account that at the moment she is collecting at certain rate, if she to flip burgers and lose her job, her benefits would be less.

There are so many factors that you so blatantly ignore. You most be a republican.
 
[citation][nom]datawrecker[/nom]Over the years I have learned one thing. Those that do not want to work, will not work. What is your problem? Unemployed for over a year and cannot find a job flipping burgers???? What kind of a social degenerate are you? I was unemployed for two months, I could not find a job in IT anywhere. So I took a job as a pipe-fitter's helper. Grinding Iron for 16 hours a day, not including the hour commute, leaving me with one fucking hour a day to spend with my family, eat, and job search. I can't stand it when people whine about not finding a job, YOU ARE NOT TRYING HARD ENOUGH!! It is people like you that are a drain on the economy, constantly sucking up tax payers dollars simply because you have too much pride to work somewhere that you might get a little dirty or something you might not like. Suck it up, take any job you can find. Just because you are employed does not mean you have to stop looking.[/citation]


just so you know my education costs more then youll probably make in a lifetime with your attitude. also i only wish you had the balls to say this to a real longterm unemployed person instead of hiding behind your internet shroud. i know if it were me id blow your fucking brains all over the wall you peice of shit. you think im lazy? i will take ANY job offered, i put in 70 or more applications a day, im too over qualified, and i dont think im any better than the next guy. yes i like a job in my field because im happy doing it, but right now ill do any job. so shut your yap. your probably one if those redneck right wing facist racists anyways, or your just trolling for problems. but remeberif you keep up this attitude, some angry unemployed person in america may just kill you, wish i could watch. but as you see in these forums, you pissed alot of people off.
 
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