[citation][nom]glennster68[/nom]Abortion after stops a beating heart if done later than ~ 23 days after conception. That's a medical fact. You can argue the value of that beating heart, but you cannot dispute the facts and be taken seriously.[/citation]
Who cares about a beating heart? Its just a pump, full of blood, that move more blood, and it is really dark in there. You can have a beating working heart and be dead. There are thousands of people right now who have perfectly good working hearts and are dead. Plus, are you even remotely suggesting that a 23 day old mass of cells that resembles a tape worm is a human being? Did you know that half of 23 day old fetuses are never born due to miscarriage?
That is why brain death is now the standard to claim who is alive and who is not alive (dead). When people say they died and came back, they are being dishonest, when your heart stops, you are not dead, when your brain dies from lack of oxygen, you are dead, permanently, no coming back. No one has come back from brain death to date.
You also know what else is a fact? The brain is the most important part of the body. Every other organ is secondary to the brain. Without a brain, you are not a human being. Screw the heart, it is only there to keep my brain alive. Screw my sexual organs, their only purpose is to make more brains. Brains = human beings. Not hearts, not lungs, not skin, not livers, or any other part of the body.