Hackers Trying to Sell PSN Data, Incl Credit Cards

[zulutech]

[citation][nom]slayer10000[/nom]ya you know what i hate to say this but any where you make account you have the chance of it getting hacked cause hackers have stopped going after banks but go after lower companys like gaming psn,xbox live ,blizzard the list goes on cause at the end of the day they dont have level of security that the banks have and safe guards[/citation]
Pfft, I can hack into a bank.

 

[therandomuser]

[citation][nom]eddieroolz[/nom]They shouldn't call themselves hackers. They are thieves, period. Thanks a lot for tainting the label yet again, dumbasses.[/citation]

That may be so, but they still managed to crack "Sony Encryption". Bank robbers (heist kind, not stickups) may be thieves, but they still have certain skills that also labels them as a demolition expert, safecracker, or security specialist. Those skills can be associated with both the bad guys and the good guys.

Including myself and others, I'd be more worried about what Sony will do when the identity theft lawsuits pile up on their desks and lawyers. The future is bleak for Sony, and as a former PS2 gamer, I feel sorry for them.

[citation][nom]Ragnar-Kon[/nom]But it is a good time to be a PC user. Games are cheaper, don't have to pay for some online service thing (Xbox Live), and the cooling of my system is completely up to me.[/citation]

Here here! Long live the PC! Long live custom PCs!

 

[Vladislaus]

[citation][nom]otacon72[/nom]BS...how is someone able to access your buddies savings account with his CC number? Not happening. Also, no company in their right mind, including Sony, would save the CVV2 number.[/citation]
Like I stated before, since I only need to enter the CVV once, when I first use the card, it means that the CVV is store somewhere. And since isn't stored on the console because you can still use the credit card on another console without entering the CVV, it means Sony has that information stored in some database.

 

[guardianangel42]

[citation][nom]redgarl[/nom]The reason why I almost never fill up true information on these forms. My true name is only on my facebook account and even there that's the only personal information that is true.Cmon peoples... trusting someone?!!! Why would you that... you need to be nuts to do so these days... trust me about it >XD[/citation]

THIS.......SENTENCE.......IS...............FALSE!

don't think about it, don't think about it, don't think about it.....

 

[Guest]

I'm so glad that I had my PSN account connected to a prepaid debit card. The most they'll get is the $22 that's still in there.

 

[dark_lord69]

[citation][nom]zulutech[/nom]Pfft, I can hack into a bank.[/citation]
I work for a Bank.
Even if you were able to hack in, it wouldn't matter because 100% of the data we have is encrypted. It's not weak encryption with some crappy low security algorithum either. It actually makes it very difficult for us to recover any data from a bad hard drive. We can't just copy files off a drive files remain encrypted. That's about all I can say...

 

[Guest]

If indeed CC/CVV #s have been compromised then we aren't going see the real damage till 3-6 months later if not a year, the first few illegal transactions were to test if the data is any good, the rest will go into storage, if they were smart enough to hack the PSN then they smart enough to know trying to use compromised #s when the whole world is watching is asking to get caught, right now everyone is monitoring their accounts, 6 months from now is a different kettle of fish

now if these hackers were really smart, they would have left a present behind that would steal the new card details that users (who didn't learn anything) would be entering in

 

[captjack5169]

[citation][nom]TunaSoda[/nom]You can get into Netflix fine still, just let the psn login fail twice, hitting back both times, works like a charm My CC info was not in their feeble database as you cannot use ANY CC's that are attached to PO boxes...[/citation]

Tuna,

I don't know where you got that tid bit of information but Im gonna have to call BS on that, because my CC is attached to a PO Box and I use it all the time. Please advise.

 

[JohnnyLucky]

I do not know how effective these options are but:

1. I do not allow my pc to store userid and passwords.

2. If given the option I do not register with online vendors.

3. If given the option I do not allow vendors to store my credit card information.

I do not know what vendors do when they do not offer options 2 and 3.

 

[NuclearShadow]

[citation][nom]11796pcs[/nom]By the way, who are the hackers even trying to harm anymore? I thought the hackers responsible were mad at Sony for prosecuting fellow hackers. If so why are they harming consumers and not Sony. If I was these hackers I would hold Sony ransom for like a billion dollars and have them pay me via a Swiss bank account. Instead they're making it hell for the rest of us while Sony comparatively gets off pretty well. The hackers get an infinite bank account and Sony gets a little bit of lost revenue, even if the PS4 doesn't sell well they would still be getting of better than the rest of us.[/citation]

The hackers involved in this likely are not connected to that or did so through that reasoning.
However if I am incorrect then it actually makes sense to target the companies consumers as they are what enable the company to stay afloat in the first place. Take the fish out of the shark tank and the shark starves to death. Sadly I don't think the average consumer has enough sense to bail out for their own safety. While I never visited the forums for PSN
I wouldn't doubt the previous poster's claim that there is more talk of discontent about not being able to play the games online rather than the real life risks they now face.

As for blackmailing Sony, they wouldn't care. This in the end would not effect them just the individual consumers. Any damage to them has already been done once it became public knowledge of the hack and leak of consumer info. At this point its a simple PR problem and like mentioned previously the average consumer just isn't bright enough to actually walk away.

 

[zulutech]

[citation][nom]dark_lord69[/nom]I work for a Bank.Even if you were able to hack in, it wouldn't matter because 100% of the data we have is encrypted. It's not weak encryption with some crappy low security algorithum either. It actually makes it very difficult for us to recover any data from a bad hard drive. We can't just copy files off a drive files remain encrypted. That's about all I can say...[/citation]

Any encryption can be broken.

 

[gm0n3y]

[citation][nom]bloodlust22[/nom]I would suspect that if private information was stolen and people begin to experiance fraud or identity theft the lawsuits will be huge against Sony. Considering the amount of people that might be affected I think most people should be more concerned if there will be a PS4 considering this could really break Sony and there gaming side.[/citation]

IANAL, though I have taken a few courses in business law, but I don't think that Sony is going to be held legally accountable here. Unless they can be shown to be negligent in the safeguards, which I doubt is the case, then they aren't at fault. If a company takes reasonable measures to protect data and they report any infiltrations immediately, then they should be ok.

Of course if they get sued in the US, then anything goes since US courts often allow ridiculous law suits to succeed.

 

[Blessedman]

Any encryption can be broken, but depending upon the level of encryption how much time money or resources do you throw at it?

 

[zulutech]

[citation][nom]Blessedman[/nom]Any encryption can be broken, but depending upon the level of encryption how much time money or resources do you throw at it?[/citation]
It doesn't matter. Its usually fairly simple, but if those who wrote the encryption actually know what they are doing, then it can be a little more challenging. However, if you have a physical connection with the hardware, ex. your able to use the computer, then you can do anything.