HD Tivo: is there any of archiving shows?

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Ken Alverson (USENET.Ken@Alverson.net) wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
> And no forseeable HDTivo is likely to, because the Firewire port can only
> carry compressed content, so to output the menus and other dynamic content
> (guide overlays and such) would require the box to have an HD encoder inside.

Well, you don't need a full encoder with MPEG-2. You can "splice" in an
overlay to existing MPEG-2 content, so that would handle the guide. For
anything that completely overwrites the screen, a very limited software
encoder should work fine, since it always has "known" input (as opposed to
live video).

But, there really isn't a reason to even try and output the TiVo graphics
on a port whose only purpose is to connect to another recorder. You don't
really want the menus on that output.

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Jeff Rife wrote:
> Ken Alverson (USENET.Ken@Alverson.net) wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
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>>And no forseeable HDTivo is likely to, because the Firewire port can only
>>carry compressed content, so to output the menus and other dynamic content
>>(guide overlays and such) would require the box to have an HD encoder inside.
>
>
> Well, you don't need a full encoder with MPEG-2. You can "splice" in an
> overlay to existing MPEG-2 content, so that would handle the guide. For
> anything that completely overwrites the screen, a very limited software
> encoder should work fine, since it always has "known" input (as opposed to
> live video).
>
> But, there really isn't a reason to even try and output the TiVo graphics
> on a port whose only purpose is to connect to another recorder. You don't
> really want the menus on that output.
>

Yeah, I was thinking along those lines. Maybe a just a really simple
encoder just to splice in a title screen. Ditch the menus, you don't
really want those.

Randy S.
 
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"Z Man" <z1z@hotmail.com> wrote:

>happening, real time, etc. I hope you're not going to tell me that my other
>favorite Tivo recording, the live grand finale of American Idol, was an
>edited down, changed, modified version...
>
Of course. All of those "reality shows" are about as real as pro
wrestling matches.. (which are actually more "live" since they're
performed in front of an audience.
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Randy S. (rswitt@NOSPAM.com) wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
> Yeah, I was thinking along those lines. Maybe a just a really simple
> encoder just to splice in a title screen. Ditch the menus, you don't
> really want those.

Yeah, a JPEG encoder would work fine, since an MPEG-2 I-frame is nothing
more than a JPEG. With a static display, you can use nothing but I-frames
in the MPEG stream and it should work.

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GMAN wrote:

> This is for the OP, why not just go buy the full Eagles concert DVD ? Its
> much better quality than the cut up version they showed on network TV

Yes, and the DVD won't have the piss-poor audio mixing.
The network TV broadcast sounded like they were sending just the
rear channels - the bass guitar and drum solos were drowned out
by the horn section. Very unprofessional.
-Joe
 
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> I'm a computing professional and have built and upgraded many
> PCs. I have added additional hard drives to three TiVos -
> one SA and two DirecTiVos. I have never been able to add a
> drive in less than one hour. If you include pulling out your
> PC and pulling out its drives, opening up the TiVo, moving
> drives to the PC, testing the backup images, and retaining
> your existing recordings on the TiVo, it will easily take over
> two hours.

I didn't pull my PC's drives. I simply detached the IDE cable from the
motherboard and used another one to connect to the Tivo drives (on a
bracket). I left the other motherboard IDE cable attached to the PC's
CDROM. In which I booted one of the many Tivo upgrading CDs. I didn't have
my PC's hard drive connected at all.

I upgraded one such DVR39 in about 15 minutes. Crack the Tivo, pull it's
drive, put it and a new drive on a weaknees bracket, crack the PC, run an
IDE cable to the new drives, boot the CD, marry the drives, disconnect from
the PC, put the short IDE cable on the drives, put the bracket back into the
Tivo and close it up.

Yes, it can take longer, heck anything in life can be made to take longer.
I had other things to do and didn't feel the need to waste it on backing up
or "testing" the images. Especially since getting fresh images off p2p is
easy enough.

> I still think its the ideal way to add space to
> your TiVo, but let's not soft-sell it.

Oh, it was certainly not my intention to make it seem any more or less
complicated than any other simple PC upgrade.