"I'm Getting Arrested" App Inspired by Occupy Wall Street

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Yoder54

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[citation][nom]alyoshka[/nom]No, what he meant is that people with iPhones are too dumb/self indulgent etc etc to be involved in anything that benefits others.[/citation]

Nothing like stereotyping. There are plenty of people out there who are working to help others in the community that use Apple products, not to mention the medical industry, education, etc. Strange that some are so narrow-minded as to judge others based on choices made in the free market place.
 

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[citation][nom]purist[/nom]"The writer of this app needs to be slapped for gross hypocrisy, since he shouldn't be supporting the people who hate his employers."Surely building weapons for both sides in a conflict is the basis of modern capitalism. Banks are happy to supply protesters with accounts, Tiffany & Co are hardly likely to bar protesters from their stores (though they're hardly the target market).The protesters are (amongst other things) reacting against corruption in the financial sector. Many rich people, politicians, college professors and even red-necks are angry about the tax dollars spent on bailouts. I am a capitalist and like most capitalists I believe in social justice, helping other people and not being a douche and taking tax money for screwing up the economy. If these bankers worked in a truly capitalist society they'd be looking for jobs now and their banks would have been sold off. Being anti-corruption is not communism![/citation]

There's two problems with that. One: Who builds weapons for their enemies? (The US surely hasn't, unless it is old hardware that has made the rounds to other nations) Two: Do you even understand what 'social justice' is? Social justice is the concept of spreading wealth around via government programs (i.e. welfare, medicare/medicaid, subsidies, etc.). Such redistribution of wealth is anti-capitalist, since capitalism is based on the understanding that the strongest product will do the best (or the strongest company will do the best in the markets); or in other terms, "may the best man win". Social Justice can only be identified closely with Socialism/Communism. Social justice basically is like handing out the "Participation Award" at a 3rd Grade Field Day. Social Justice is like saying that: "We know you're mediocre, but here's some cash for being mediocre so you can keep on being mediocre" (that's individually or as a company); instead of letting them fail because they deserve to fail. Do some reading before you start saying that you're capitalist and for Social Justice, since you can't (nor can our country) have it both ways. I'm a real capitalist and I believe that people should succeed or fail on their own merits, and the government should not try to bail everyone out because of their own stupidity or laziness. The very most the Federal Government should do is stay out of the markets; the State Governments should have only the obligation to provide unemployment benefits. THAT'S IT.
 

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trust me when i say i was not asked if tax payers should bail out thieves
[citation][nom]hoofhearted[/nom]Yet if the whole point of this OWS movement is to protest corporate influence over democracy and they are paying this "contract", then they are supporting the object of the cause they are against. At least that is how I see wireless carriers, especially in the USA with their contract crap.And writes software for Citibank ... LOLOL ... the recipient of $300 Billion USA taxpayer bailout money. Yeah, he really believes in the movement LOLOLOL[/citation]
trust me when i say i was not asked if tax payers should bail out thieves of the board, executives, branch managers and loan officers and shareholders. that decision was made by elected officials who need those hundreds of thousands and millions of dollars in campaign contributions kick backs for this up coming re-election to continue giving away americas money to the rest of the world at the citizens expense.
personally my vote was for no bail out to anybody, the immediate reinstatement of the Glass-Stegal Act that expressly prohibited banks from doing exactly this AGAIN instutued back in the 1930's to prevent the now repeated great depression, winning the war on communism by killing all trade with them NAFTA and PNTR with China and now the American-Sino Free Trade Agreement (ASFTA) should be immediately revoked.
and your sorry arse would be out in the middle of that protest.
but what would i know about fiscal responsibility, my lack of debt and vanished investments into myself for retirement thru my companies which left for china and paying my taxes so the people in charge of all this can be rewarded immensely for it.
 

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[citation][nom]soundthinking[/nom]Social justice is the concept of spreading wealth around via government programs (i.e. welfare, medicare/medicaid, subsidies, etc.). Such redistribution of wealth is anti-capitalist, since capitalism is based on the understanding that the strongest product will do the best (or the strongest company will do the best in the markets); or in other terms, "may the best man win".[/citation]
You seem to be the one confused about what social justice is. Social justice means that everyone is treated equally and humanely. This insures the existence of a democratic state and was what the civil rights movement in the 60's was all about. The injustice here is that the rich get the big tax breaks, can buy power on Capitol Hill, and end-up swaying the policy of what goes on in this country. The government is run by special interest groups and does not represent the voice of the people. The social justice that needs to happen here is that the lobbyist should be kicked out of Washington and the country should be ruled by the people and not the elite who can buy their way in.

[citation][nom]soundthinking[/nom] Social Justice can only be identified closely with Socialism/Communism. [/citation]
Such a naive statement. This country was built on revolution and the concept of equality, to say that the expression of what is guaranteed to us by the US Constitution is dictatorial.

[citation][nom]soundthinking[/nom]Social Justice is like saying that: "We know you're mediocre, but here's some cash for being mediocre so you can keep on being mediocre" (that's individually or as a company); instead of letting them fail because they deserve to fail. Do some reading before you start saying that you're capitalist and for Social Justice, since you can't (nor can our country) have it both ways.[/citation]
So, everyone who is out of work today is out of work because they are failures? Corporate greed, a corrupt banking industry, a broken economic system has nothing to do with according to your logic. There are plenty of people out there who would gladly work, but cannot. To group them all together like you have only punctuates your need to read more.

[citation][nom]soundthinking[/nom]I'm a real capitalist and I believe that people should succeed or fail on their own merits, and the government should not try to bail everyone out because of their own stupidity or laziness. The very most the Federal Government should do is stay out of the markets; the State Governments should have only the obligation to provide unemployment benefits. THAT'S IT.[/citation]

Do you pound your chest when you say you are a real capitalist? If you were a real capitalist then you would be opposed to the monopoly held by the health insurance industry, the bank, and would be fighting to have tax payers quit paying for the building of professional sports complexes on the tax payers dime. You talk of "anti-capitalist," yet how many companies get subsidies and bailouts? True capitalism is dead in this country. You say the government should only pay unemployment. What about the roads that allow for commerce? Paid by the state or let the corporations pay for them. What about all of the companies that have benefitted from federal R&D while cutting back on their own R&D. The government did stay out of the markets and look what happened? Are the corporations going to decline doing business with our military/government that protects their very existence. Will these same corporations pay for educating the youth who eventually become their engineers, managers, etc.? Your argument is very shallow and without substance. The problem with you is that you are just a selfish hater. You don't give a squat about anyone else but yourself (think Ayn Rand), while there are many who have given their lives so that you can sit there all comfy and talk your trash and belittle others less fortunate than you. Finally, and this will be a hard pill to swallow for you, many times people are more the victims of circumstance than anything else. Your type probably would accuse all of the unemployed during the Great Depression of being lazy and wanting a free ride, because they could not find work. Similar events are happening today, and the blame is squarely on the shoulders of the banks, Wall Street speculators, etc.
 

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[citation][nom]soundthinking[/nom]There's two problems with that. One: Who builds weapons for their enemies? (The US surely hasn't, unless it is old hardware that has made the rounds to other nations) [/citation]

You might want to google war profiteering then realize Tom's has no edit button. Probably should look up the origins of the Taliban while you're at it.
 

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This kind of "app" is meant to condition people to think that "getting arrested" for exercising your constitutional rights to free speech and freedom to assemble as groups is just another everyday occurance. A matter of fact is it "cool" .

Wow how sick is this !?
 

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[citation][nom]JOSHSKORN[/nom]They need an "I've been drinking, shut off access to Facebook" app.[/citation]
Its been done, but for windows and linux only.. Apparently apple software is to hard to use when drunk anyway.
 

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[citation][nom]jacekring[/nom]It wasn't just a single factor that screwed up our economy, it was a bunch of them. But in my opinion it starts in Washington DC. It started with the CRA back in 1980, then escalated when Bush reformed the CRA laws in 1999. And the final bullet was the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933, which was revised in 1980 then repealed (nearly completely) in 1999.The Glass-Steagall Act was enacted after the Great Depression to prevent the same thing from happening again...and suprise suprise not 10 years after it's repealed we have a recession...from banks too big to fail (same problem as back in 1933, which is why the Glass-Steagall Act seperated Investment Banking and Commercial Banking and forbid mergers between the two).[/citation]

I just want to point out that Bush wasnt President in 1999. Clinton was.
 
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