Internet an "Unreliable Toy" by 2012

[resonance451]

What a load of crap.

 

[resonance451]

Also, if the modern backbone were brought down, I'd jump for joy. Most of the backbone in the US is sectioned out and owned by major corporations. So in essence our freest form of communication is owned by corporate America, and they can spy on anything you do without a warrant and without any recompense. A different type of network where the system didn't depend on these backbone portions would be absolutely wonderful.

As for bandwidth, that will increase as will everything else. Nothing to worry about.

 

[resonance451]

[citation][nom]tritter[/nom]Please read the source report before dismissing the research. Nemertes is explicit that the fiber, core and metro layers of the Internet will scale to meet all projected demand. The challenge is the last mile where potential demand is growing faster than capacity. Unfortunately, misquotes and sensationalism grab readers. The reality is the only people that really know how fast demand is growing are the ISPs and they don't share those numbers. That is why we built a model to project potential demand against supply. The report and FAQ are available for free:FAQ: http://nemertes.com/internet_infra [...] stions_faqReport: http://www.nemertes.com/studies/in [...] acture_netThanks,Ted RitterNemertes Research[/citation]

I simply don't think that demand will outgrow supply. These estimations everyone makes are insane even with some credible numbers to back them. Projections are just that: projections.

 

[elbert]

Backbone system owners will limit bandwidth else get sued for not supplying the agreed bandwidth. Youtube will find they cant buy more bandwidth and force users to cut video size. Being unable to buy more bandwidth the ISP's will, to keep from being sued, drop their max bandwidth packages.
Caps to fix this issue will not work. Customers should see this as a cop out of bandwidth advertised. Bandwidth's should be what the ISP's can provide for each customer and not a sales pitch.

 

[techguy911]

They will switch over to internet 2 when internet can no longer handle current traffic so no it will happen.

The only thing that might cause a collapse is the RiAA,MPAA are trying there hardest to prevent public use of internet 2 for fear that a faster backbone means more piracy.

Internet2 moves data 100 to 1,000 times faster than the internet does now.

 

[jacobdrj]

I remember when they said the cell phone subscriber base had an inherent limit, and that every new cell phone subscriber put us 1 step closer to the cell phone network failing. That never happened. Sure, if every person in a convention hall uses their iPhone 3G all at once, you can get a lockout, but under normal loads, the companies that stand to profit from cell phone use have made sure the network was stable.

Why is the internet any different?

I remember when they said there was an inherent speed bottleneck based on the materieals used for CPUs. 2 GHz was the limit! Electron bleed and heat production would cap the progress of processing speed. Instead, innovative companies like AMD took a finesse approach, rather than brute force and stymed people's fears. We now have chip both borderlining 4GHz that are also 10 times more efficiant per clock cycle.

This sounds like fear-speak by companies like Time-Warner.

 

[bill gates is your daddy]

This is all about greed. The CEO's would rather line their pockets with all the money they bleed out of consumers. Then whine about how the internet will die if we don't get control of those web surfers out there eating up their precious bandwidth. All the while still operating on 10 year old equipment. Then comes the caps because how dare we live in a world where we can exchange free information amongst ourselves. They control everything else in our world and this is the last piece of the puzzle. Welcome to the New World Order….just hurry up and get it over with.

 

[thearm]

I just had to click on this to see who the idiot is now making huge statements like this. When will people learn.

 

[ehenry818]

I guess this will be as bad as Y2K. I guess we will all have too 2012 proof our computers. I will create 2012 protection software so on Janury 1st 2013 at midnight you computer will start going "Dumb A** Dumb A**

 

[Parrdacc]

A "think tank" came up with this? Okay, how about they "think" up a way to prevent this from happening, or come up with the next "internet"? Wonder how much they get paid for this?

 

[antilycus]

the only problem with that STUPID analogy is that data lines dont blow up or degrade when there is too much data pushed through them. They simply don't allow the packet through. So heaven forbid, people will need to wait 10 seconds instead of 1 sec. That is the eventual down fall. The computers and laptops don't determine how fast the data goes from point A to point B, the quality of the data line and the material used and the distance of the data line do. This is where science has a HUGE hole. There is always some stupid way to "prove" what you are trying to say... but sorry Analogies ARE NOT PROOF. Either is disproving something, proof.

 

[v-man]

"It's not a big truck. It's a series of tubes."

I rest my case...

 

[TwoDigital]

This is utter sillyness. Yes, the network could be overwhelmed and crash by heavy use but there are maybe a couple people or companies (or maybe BILLIONS of people) who have a vested interest in not letting it "crash and burn."

The internet backbone is a series of high-capacity exabyte transfer lines (OC96 is the heaviest transport I've ever worked with personally...) And there's nothing but some investment stopping us from doubling up or 10x up on the number of lines in the backbone. The fear-mongering should probably be replaced by a some investment to run some fiber.

 

[Onus]

Simple. Death sentences for convicted spammers, malware-authors, and botnet operators (an individual is innocent until proven guilty); perhaps a technical solution can be implemented to weed this stuff out at the first node, but this is the bandwidth-chewing game that needs to stop, one way or another.

 

[etrnl_frost]

A very interesting idea, but not quite what to make of it yet.

 

[etrnl_frost]

[citation][nom]etrnl_frost[/nom]A very interesting idea, but not quite what to make of it yet.[/citation]
* Referring to the original topic, not the death sentence!

 

[tenor77]

Their analogy = epic fail.

If I were to use a better analogy it would be, say a city builds a 4 lane highway. It is sufficient for the current population. Should the city population expand this highway may no longer be sufficient to support the higher volume. The solution? Expand the highway, create new paths and extra road. Problem solved.

 

[Guest]

This type of propoganda serves 2 purposes:

1) The acceptance of the charge by usage model that Time Warner and other ISPs are trying to implement.
2) The provision of an impetus to interject governmental oversight and regulation on another private industry.

Both purpose lead to a degradaiotn of the user experience and I ask everyone who will listen to stand against these designs.

 

[Guest]

One thing is sure, every customer an ISP gains, is more profit in their pockets, regardless if the customer downloads 200GB per month, or only 1GB.
Even if ALL of their customers would download 100GB per month they would still be able to run fine with their $50 per month plans.

Construction costs, maintenance is very negligable. Every 7 years they will need to renew their servers, but who the heck said they needed to go for that ultra fast $100.000 server, if 2x $30.000 servers could outpace the 100.000 one?
Get 2x 30.000$ servers instead, and wait 3 years, and then buy that 100.000 server additionaly (or a better one) for the remaining $40.000 or so...
But some ISP's have donkey dicks in their offices, wasting money like leaving AC's running with all doors and windows opened!

Get real! The customer don't need to pay for the company's inadequency to handle the money!

 

[o0 zeno 0o]

British scientist Sir Tim Berners-Lee?! I thought Al Gore invented the internet...