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On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 11:37:01 +1100, "Anne Logan"
<logana@connexus.net.au> wrote:

>I love 'SnagIt' from www.techsmith.com. Very versatile and includes
>capturing scrolling windows on the Internet etc and lots of options on how
>to say, you can annotate and highlight from within the program and save
>different profiles for the different tasks. Not free of course but I think
>it is worth the money (about $US40.00, I think) for what it can do!
>
>Regards,
>
>
>Anne Logan

Thanks for the suggestion. If there's a trial version, I will give it
a try.

Emily

 

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On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 08:41:44 -0600, Ron Hunter <rphunter@charter.net>
wrote:

>Keith Sheppard wrote:
>>>>I'm looking for a small program that works with
>>>>WinXP Home to save screen shots
>>
>> I use Paint Shop Pro for this purpose, but it could be overkill if that's
>> all you want it for.
>>
>> Keith
>>
>>
>>
>Yes, that's using a sledge hammer to drive a thumbtack. Something like
>Irfanview is much more suitable to the task, and will probably have the
>picture saved long before you get PSP loaded.

Exactly. I have ThumbsPlus and PhotoShop (and PSP which came with the
computer but which I don't use) for any graphic manipulation. I just
want the quick, easy, and small program for screen shots. PhotoEditor
was perfect, which is probably why Microsoft left it out of XP. ;-/

I had been using Win98 for over five years and was in hopes that XP
would have some improvements in a few areas that I thought were clunky
and irritating. No such luck. Instead, they've added cute little
puppy dogs wagging their tails which makes Search for Files and
Folders slower than ever. I have to admit that it seems to handle RAM
a whole lot better than 98 did.

Emily

 

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paul wrote:
> Ron Hunter wrote:
>
>>
>> Download Irfanview from www.irfanview.com. It will handle those
>> screen images neatly, and it is free. Loads instantly.
>
>
>
> Super lightweight as requested. The only pain is changing the file type
> from bmp to gif/jpeg *every* time. Open a file with it in your working
> directory, paste, crop & ctl-s to save in that directory. Hit the escape
> key to dismiss.

I have never had to do that. Perhaps you can set something in the
preferences. There are alOT of them to go through.

 

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emily@nospam.com wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 08:41:44 -0600, Ron Hunter <rphunter@charter.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Keith Sheppard wrote:
>>
>>>>>I'm looking for a small program that works with
>>>>>WinXP Home to save screen shots
>>>
>>>I use Paint Shop Pro for this purpose, but it could be overkill if that's
>>>all you want it for.
>>>
>>>Keith
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Yes, that's using a sledge hammer to drive a thumbtack. Something like
>>Irfanview is much more suitable to the task, and will probably have the
>>picture saved long before you get PSP loaded.
>
>
> Exactly. I have ThumbsPlus and PhotoShop (and PSP which came with the
> computer but which I don't use) for any graphic manipulation. I just
> want the quick, easy, and small program for screen shots. PhotoEditor
> was perfect, which is probably why Microsoft left it out of XP. ;-/
>
> I had been using Win98 for over five years and was in hopes that XP
> would have some improvements in a few areas that I thought were clunky
> and irritating. No such luck. Instead, they've added cute little
> puppy dogs wagging their tails which makes Search for Files and
> Folders slower than ever. I have to admit that it seems to handle RAM
> a whole lot better than 98 did.
>
> Emily
>
>
You can just right-click on the little dog and tell him to
'scram'.

 

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>>Just used the Alt/PRTSCRN to save just this active window. Worked
>>great. WinXP/SP2. Perhaps the screwup is on your end. Something like
>>a screensaver, or other program using the alt key for other purposes???

Curiously it still doesn't work for me. I am using only the Windows XP
standard screensaver and the only software running when I tried Alt+Print
Screen was Microsoft Outlook. Other Alt key combinations (eg Alt+F4 to
close a window) work fine, it's only window capture that doesn't.

According to My Computer, Properties, I am running Microsoft Windows XP
Professional, Version 2002 (I presume that's the year, not the number of
attempts it took to get it right

I wonder if there's any esoteric option I could inadvertently have set or
unset.

Keith

 

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On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:19:50 GMT, in rec.photo.digital "Keith
Sheppard" <keith.sheppard@tesco.net> wrote:

>>>Just used the Alt/PRTSCRN to save just this active window. Worked
>>>great. WinXP/SP2. Perhaps the screwup is on your end. Something like
>>>a screensaver, or other program using the alt key for other purposes???
>
>Curiously it still doesn't work for me. I am using only the Windows XP
>standard screensaver and the only software running when I tried Alt+Print
>Screen was Microsoft Outlook. Other Alt key combinations (eg Alt+F4 to
>close a window) work fine, it's only window capture that doesn't.
>
>According to My Computer, Properties, I am running Microsoft Windows XP
>Professional, Version 2002 (I presume that's the year, not the number of
>attempts it took to get it right

Printscreen copies the whole display to the clipboard, Alt+Printscreen
copies just the active window. Then just open Paint up and paste it,
then save it. You can use whatever graphics app you want, but Paint is
there in all versions of Windows.
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Keith Sheppard wrote:

>>>Just used the Alt/PRTSCRN to save just this active window. Worked
>>>great. WinXP/SP2. Perhaps the screwup is on your end. Something like
>>>a screensaver, or other program using the alt key for other purposes???
>
>
> Curiously it still doesn't work for me. I am using only the Windows XP
> standard screensaver and the only software running when I tried Alt+Print
> Screen was Microsoft Outlook. Other Alt key combinations (eg Alt+F4 to
> close a window) work fine, it's only window capture that doesn't.
>
> According to My Computer, Properties, I am running Microsoft Windows XP
> Professional, Version 2002 (I presume that's the year, not the number of
> attempts it took to get it right
>
> I wonder if there's any esoteric option I could inadvertently have set or
> unset.
>
> Keith


Hi...

Couple of thoughts for the OP, if I may?

Try shift-prtscrn, see if that works.

If not, check for keyboard loggers, I'd recommend spybot.

And failing all that, download a utility from cnet.com called
screenprint32 - freeware

Take care.

Ken

 

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On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 18:23:38 -0800, paul <paul@not.net> wrote:

>Ron Hunter wrote:
>>
>> Download Irfanview from www.irfanview.com. It will handle those screen
>> images neatly, and it is free. Loads instantly.
>
>
>Super lightweight as requested. The only pain is changing the file type
>from bmp to gif/jpeg *every* time. Open a file with it in your working
>directory, paste, crop & ctl-s to save in that directory. Hit the escape
>key to dismiss.

You can download IrfanView ShellExtension 1.02 from
http/www.baxbex.com/products.html and convert directly in
Windows Explorer..

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On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 19:42:51 -0600, Ron Hunter <rphunter@charter.net>
wrote:

>emily@nospam.com wrote:
>> This is somewhat off topic, I suppose, but it seemed a good place to
>> ask this question. I'm looking for a small program that works with
>> WinXP Home to save screen shots. I just switched to XP from Win98,
>> which had PhotoEditor that I used for this purpose. Unfortunately,
>> PhotoEditor won't work with XP. I want to avoid having to open
>> ThumbsPlus every time I make a screen shot. Possibly there's no
>> problem, as XP seems to handle memory a lot better than Win98 did.
>> This new computer has less RAM than the old one, but opening TP if I
>> had any other programs open always slowed things down a lot. And I
>> always seem to have several programs open. Any suggestions for a
>> small program to fill this need?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Emily
>>
>Download Irfanview from www.irfanview.com. It will handle those screen
>images neatly, and it is free. Loads instantly.

Thanks. I did and it's perfect. Just what I was looking for.

Thanks again,

Emily

 

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>>Printscreen copies the whole display to the clipboard, Alt+Printscreen
>>copies just the active window.

Well, as I keep saying, I know Alt+PrintScreen is _supposed_ to copy the
active window but on my laptop it demonstrably fails to do so.

Keith

 

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Keith Sheppard wrote:
>>>Printscreen copies the whole display to the clipboard, Alt+Printscreen
>>>copies just the active window.
>
>
> Well, as I keep saying, I know Alt+PrintScreen is _supposed_ to copy the
> active window but on my laptop it demonstrably fails to do so.
>
> Keith
>
>
I would suspect some other program is intercepting this key combination...


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>>Couple of thoughts for the OP, if I may?
OP=? (sorry, feeling a bit dim this morning).

>>Try shift-prtscrn, see if that works.
Nope. Copies whole screen.

>>If not, check for keyboard loggers, I'd recommend spybot.
Thanks, I'll look into it.

>>And failing all that, download a utility from cnet.com called
>>screenprint32 - freeware
I wasn't the original poster and I do already have a method for capturing
windows - Paint Shop Pro does it. I just joined this conversation with the
observation that Alt+PrintScreen no longer worked on my machine and wondered
why. Thanks for the suggestion, though.

Regards
Keith

 

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Keith Sheppard wrote:
>>>Couple of thoughts for the OP, if I may?
>
> OP=? (sorry, feeling a bit dim this morning).
>
>
>>>Try shift-prtscrn, see if that works.
>
> Nope. Copies whole screen.
>
>
>>>If not, check for keyboard loggers, I'd recommend spybot.
>
> Thanks, I'll look into it.
>
>
>>>And failing all that, download a utility from cnet.com called
>>>screenprint32 - freeware
>
> I wasn't the original poster and I do already have a method for capturing
> windows - Paint Shop Pro does it. I just joined this conversation with the
> observation that Alt+PrintScreen no longer worked on my machine and wondered
> why. Thanks for the suggestion, though.
>
> Regards
> Keith
>
>
>
Roughly in order of probability:

Other software intercepting key combo, or one of the keys. Keylogger,
screensaver switcher, macro program, etc.

Spyware or virus intrusion.

Configuration setting.

Conflicting software that runs in the background.

Unless being able to screenprint an active window is particularly
important to you, it probably isn't worth exploring beyond running a
good spyware checker.


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>>>>>I'm looking for a small program that works with
>>>>>WinXP Home to save screen shots
>>>
>>> I use Paint Shop Pro for this purpose, but it could be overkill if
that's
>>> all you want it for.
>>>
>>> Keith
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Yes, that's using a sledge hammer to drive a thumbtack. Something like
>>Irfanview is much more suitable to the task, and will probably have the
>>picture saved long before you get PSP loaded.

I did say it could be overkill, but I'm just using what I've already got.
No point in downloading something new if I've already got something that
does it anyway. I think I've got a very old version of PSP (vn 4.) which is
probably an advantage. It's not slow to load and does all the (few) things
I need it to do - and no, that doesn't include photo editing or organising -
I have other software for that.

 

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Keith Sheppard wrote:
>>>>>>I'm looking for a small program that works with
>>>>>>WinXP Home to save screen shots
>>>>
>>>>I use Paint Shop Pro for this purpose, but it could be overkill if
>
> that's
>
>>>>all you want it for.
>>>>
>>>>Keith
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Yes, that's using a sledge hammer to drive a thumbtack. Something like
>>>Irfanview is much more suitable to the task, and will probably have the
>>>picture saved long before you get PSP loaded.
>
>
> I did say it could be overkill, but I'm just using what I've already got.
> No point in downloading something new if I've already got something that
> does it anyway. I think I've got a very old version of PSP (vn 4.) which is
> probably an advantage. It's not slow to load and does all the (few) things
> I need it to do - and no, that doesn't include photo editing or organising -
> I have other software for that.
>
>
>
If it suits your needs, and doesn't take longer to load than you are
happy with, I see no reason to change, but if you want to explore other
alternatives, Irfanview is a good place to start.


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Ron Hunter wrote:
> Keith Sheppard wrote:
>>>>>>>I'm looking for a small program that works with
>>>>>>>WinXP Home to save screen shots
>>>>>
>>>>>I use Paint Shop Pro for this purpose, but it could be overkill if
>>
>> that's
>>
>>>>>all you want it for.
>>>>>
>>>>>Keith
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Yes, that's using a sledge hammer to drive a thumbtack. Something like
>>>>Irfanview is much more suitable to the task, and will probably have the
>>>>picture saved long before you get PSP loaded.
>>
>>
>> I did say it could be overkill, but I'm just using what I've already got.
>> No point in downloading something new if I've already got something that
>> does it anyway. I think I've got a very old version of PSP (vn 4.) which is
>> probably an advantage. It's not slow to load and does all the (few) things
>> I need it to do - and no, that doesn't include photo editing or organising -
>> I have other software for that.
>>
>>
>>
> If it suits your needs, and doesn't take longer to load than you are
> happy with, I see no reason to change, but if you want to explore other
> alternatives, Irfanview is a good place to start.
>
>
There is a great program that will allow you to copy, crop, save, email or print any
portion of any window. Check "PrintScreenWorks" at http/ajsystems.com/psw.html

 

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emily@nospam.com wrote:
[...]
> Did earlier version of Paint allow you to save in different formats?
> My memory seems to be that only .bmp was available, and I've never
> liked .bmp much because of the size of the files. Maybe I have it
> confused with some other program.

I don't recall. I've always just used the BMP file format as an
intermediary, and the file size has never really been a concern.

> Anyway, now that you've reminded me that Paint exists, I find it will
> do OK for my purposes.

> Thanks,

You're most welcome. Glad to be of help.

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emily@nospam.com wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 19:42:51 -0600, Ron Hunter <rphunter@charter.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>emily@nospam.com wrote:
>>
>>>This is somewhat off topic, I suppose, but it seemed a good place to
>>>ask this question. I'm looking for a small program that works with
>>>WinXP Home to save screen shots. I just switched to XP from Win98,
>>>which had PhotoEditor that I used for this purpose. Unfortunately,
>>>PhotoEditor won't work with XP. I want to avoid having to open
>>>ThumbsPlus every time I make a screen shot. Possibly there's no
>>>problem, as XP seems to handle memory a lot better than Win98 did.
>>>This new computer has less RAM than the old one, but opening TP if I
>>>had any other programs open always slowed things down a lot. And I
>>>always seem to have several programs open. Any suggestions for a
>>>small program to fill this need?
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Emily
>>>
>>
>>Download Irfanview from www.irfanview.com. It will handle those screen
>>images neatly, and it is free. Loads instantly.
>
>
> Thanks. I did and it's perfect. Just what I was looking for.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Emily
>
>


Glad to help, Emily. Most peope find Irfanview to be a really great
program. Fast, small, light, and very powerful.


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Paul Wylie wrote:
> emily@nospam.com wrote:
> [...]
>
>>Did earlier version of Paint allow you to save in different formats?
>>My memory seems to be that only .bmp was available, and I've never
>>liked .bmp much because of the size of the files. Maybe I have it
>>confused with some other program.
>
>
> I don't recall. I've always just used the BMP file format as an
> intermediary, and the file size has never really been a concern.
>
>
>>Anyway, now that you've reminded me that Paint exists, I find it will
>>do OK for my purposes.
>
>
>>Thanks,
>
>
> You're most welcome. Glad to be of help.
>
> --Paul
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BMP files for screens can be very large, compared to jpg file sizes. If
you have to upload them, it can be significant.


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Ron Hunter <rphunter@charter.net> wrote:
> BMP files for screens can be very large, compared to jpg file sizes. If
> you have to upload them, it can be significant.

Indeed, and for web pages requiring use of those screenshots, I generally
convert them to PNGs, because PNGs are losslessly compressed, as opposed
to JPGs which use lossy compression.

Of course, Windows Paint can't save PNGs, so I save as BMPs and use The
Gimp to convert from BMP to PNG.

--Paul
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