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> That's why I plan on porting to another carrier when my ATTWS contract
> expires in July. Cingular has a culture of indifference to their customers.
> Thank goodness for competition. Screw Cingular.

Are you also going to port to another newsgroup?
 
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In article <1139t1cdno04gc6@corp.supernews.com>,
RWEmerson <foolish_consistency@hobgoblin.com> wrote:

> > Take shortcuts, and you won't.
> >
> It's not grammar. dear Elmo. It's syntax. Get yourself a dictionary.
>
> You understood exactly what my meaning was, so your comment was both
> unnecessary and an especially good example of pedantry.

Ah. So you know that you were wrong, and your method of acknowledging
that is to go on the attack.

Attack away. Doesn't change the fact that you improperly constructed
your sentence, in a way a 6th grader is taught to avoid.

THAT'S what's gotten to you.
 

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"Tropical Haven" <user@example.net> wrote in message
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> > That's why I plan on porting to another carrier when my ATTWS contract
> > expires in July. Cingular has a culture of indifference to their
customers.
> > Thank goodness for competition. Screw Cingular.
>
> Are you also going to port to another newsgroup?
>

No but I am going to port you right over to my killfile right now!
 
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> Ah. So you know that you were wrong, and your method of acknowledging
> that is to go on the attack.
>
> Attack away. Doesn't change the fact that you improperly constructed
> your sentence, in a way a 6th grader is taught to avoid.
>
> THAT'S what's gotten to you.

"Ah." "...you improperly constructed your sentence"

I have never known "Ah." to be a complete sentence in the English
language. Is there an implied subject and an implied verb? I was under
the impression that "ah" was used a verbal filler during spoken
language, much like "um", "oh", "and", and similar words that can be
used as verbal fillers.

TH
 
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>>>That's why I plan on porting to another carrier when my ATTWS contract
>>>expires in July. Cingular has a culture of indifference to their
>>
> customers.
>
>>>Thank goodness for competition. Screw Cingular.
>>
>>Are you also going to port to another newsgroup?
>
> No

That's too bad, since you like Verizon so much, you'd be a better match
to be a resident in alt.cellular.verizon
 

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On 11 Mar 2005 17:20:26 -0800, "Kev" <KevinKitchen@gmail.com> wrote:

>Verizon is not GMS and if you want to use your phone in any other
>country or even roam in some parts of this country, you are out of luck.

Verizon isn't even GSM!

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On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 12:27:06 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

>In article <1138n5f9m2t4r22@corp.supernews.com>,
> RWEmerson <foolish_consistency@hobgoblin.com> wrote:
>
>> As a fellow Idaho resident,
>> Tmobile's coverage
>
>What you just said is that Tmobile is a fellow Idaho resident.
>
>What you undoubtedly meant to say is that "as a fellow Idaho resident, I
>find Tombile's coverage..."
>
>YOU are the Idaho resident. Not Tmobile.

Don't argue with him! He is Tmobile.

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On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 21:41:55 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

>Ah. So you know that you were wrong, and your method of acknowledging
>that is to go on the attack.
>
>Attack away. Doesn't change the fact that you improperly constructed
>your sentence, in a way a 6th grader is taught to avoid.

This ain't a freakin' school. Mind your own damned business and go
back to teaching underprivileged children in Asia.
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Joseph wrote:
> <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>>Ah. So you know that you were wrong, and your method of acknowledging
>>that is to go on the attack.
>>
>>Attack away. Doesn't change the fact that you improperly constructed
>>your sentence, in a way a 6th grader is taught to avoid.
>
> This ain't a freakin' school. Mind your own damned business and go
> back to teaching underprivileged children in Asia.

Just how is he to know that that isn't exactly what he has been doing?
 
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Joseph wrote:
> On 11 Mar 2005 17:20:26 -0800, "Kev" <KevinKitchen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>Verizon is not GMS and if you want to use your phone in any other
>>country or even roam in some parts of this country, you are out of luck.
>
> Verizon isn't even GSM!

No MSG, either!
 

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"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
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> Use proper grammar, and you'll get your point across.
>
> Take shortcuts, and you won't.

Funny, I understood his point just fine. You're probably the only person
here that was confused.
 
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Kev wrote:
> All that is a LIE. I have an ATT WS plan on 2 different accounts and
> one of those is expired now and Cingular has not, in anyway,
attempted
> to force me off my plan or to buy another phone (it is TDMA). You can
> keep your plan and your phone as long as you want but if you switch
> plans, then yes, you will be required to sign just as a new customer,
> go through credit and pay the activation fee although it is at a
> discount.

Hardly a lie.

I have been with ATT/Suncom in the Hampton Roads VA area for several
yesrs. Just switched my 3 TDMA phones to GSM phones (same plan) 2
months ago when I renewed for 2 more years. Now I like everyone else in
this area are receiving letters from Cingular being told that our
phones are not supported on the Cingular network and need to come in
before June 1st to get a new phone. Of course they are being so
gracious as to offer them at a discount if you agree to an additional
two year contract. Oh , they do offer one for free that has half the
features of my current phones and half the talk/standby time.

Yep, I smell scumbags coming to town.
 
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In <X%XYd.131637$Th1.57986@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> on Sun, 13 Mar
2005 14:21:43 GMT, "JohnF" <u85721@yahoo.com> wrote:

>"Jerome Zelinske" <jeromez1@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:2SVYd.9066$cN6.4347@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>> I was under the impression that all of att's tdma areas were overlaid with
>> gsm?
>
>Not in Idaho. I know several people who switched to GSM then found the
>coverage much worse but Cingular wouldn't let them switch back. Since
>Verizon is the only other carrier here who has comparable coverage to TDMA
>that's were they're switching to. I don't think Cingular realizes how many
>customers they're losing by taking a hard line approach to converting
>people.

<http://www.wi-fitechnology.com/displayarticle1764.html>:

Cingular, which is owned by SBC Communications Inc. (NYSE: SBC) and
BellSouth Corporation (NYSE: BLS), completed its acquisition of AT&T
Wireless on Oct. 26, 2004, creating a wireless provider that now owns
spectrum licenses covering a total population of 290 million and
currently serves all of the nation’s top 100 metropolitan areas.

In its first quarter of combined operations, the new Cingular
delivered a net increase in subscribers of nearly 1.8 million on a
pro forma basis, which incorporates results from AT&T Wireless for
the first 25 days of October, includes net additions from other
acquired properties and excludes results from markets that Cingular
has agreed to divest. This increase was more than double Cingular’s
pro forma net subscriber additions in both the preceding quarter
(808,000) and the year-ago fourth quarter (736,000). It was
Cingular’s highest net-add quarter ever, when historical results of
Cingular and AT&T Wireless are combined. Not counting net customer
additions of AT&T Wireless for the first 25 days of the quarter and
other pro forma adjustments for dispositions and other acquisitions,
reported net customer additions were 1.7 million.

Cingular ended 2004 with 49.1 million total subscribers.

Cingular’s gross customer additions in the fourth quarter totaled 5.7
million on a pro forma basis, the highest quarter ever when
historical results of the two companies are combined, and average
monthly pro forma subscriber churn declined significantly versus pro
forma results for the third quarter of 2004 and the fourth quarter of
2003.

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>Cingular, more bars in more places.... and less bars in others.

From the same article:

In addition to robust subscriber growth, during the fourth quarter,
Cingular achieved solid progress in three additional key focus areas:
growing its GSM customer base, retaining former AT&T Wireless
subscribers by transitioning them to new Cingular plans, and reducing
churn.

At year’s end, more than 65 percent of Cingular’s subscriber base was
GSM-equipped, up from a pro forma 57 percent at the end of the third
quarter of 2004. More than 8 percent of Cingular’s customer base
upgraded handsets during the quarter -- almost entirely onto GSM.

...

Also during the final two months of the quarter, Cingular converted
more than 1 million AT&T Wireless subscribers to new Cingular
postpaid plans, as subscribers responded positively to Cingular’s
broad network coverage and attractive features.

Cingular’s progress in growing its GSM base and its network
improvements contributed to significantly improved churn levels. Pro
forma average monthly churn improved to 2.6 percent -- 60 basis points
lower than pro forma churn for the third quarter of 2004.

In addition, starting in the first quarter of 2005, Cingular will
adopt a new calculation for reseller churn that is more consistent
with some of its major competitors. Cingular currently includes
reseller disconnects in its churn calculation. In the future,
Cingular will base its calculations on total reseller net additions
or reductions, in line with industry peers. If this methodology had
been in place in the fourth quarter, Cingular’s pro forma churn would
have been 2.4 percent overall.

--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>
 

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