New Laptop / W2K

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>Should you buy a retail edition of XP as opposed to OEM, I think you can
>transfer it from PC to PC with no problem.

NOT! Once you activate the OS, it is linked to a "fingerprint" of the
computer on which it is installed. If it was as you say, there would
be no issue. The whole point of activation is to prevent you from
installing the OS on more than one machine.

DD
"It's easy when you know how..."
Johnny Shines

 

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"David DeCristoforo" <david@privacy.net> wrote in message
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| >Should you buy a retail edition of XP as opposed to OEM, I think you can
| >transfer it from PC to PC with no problem.
|
| NOT! Once you activate the OS, it is linked to a "fingerprint" of the
| computer on which it is installed. If it was as you say, there would
| be no issue. The whole point of activation is to prevent you from
| installing the OS on more than one machine.
|
| DD
| "It's easy when you know how..."
| Johnny Shines


Hi David -

My retail copy of Windows XP Professional Upgrade Edition has happily
resided on three different computers since acquiring it - albeit not at the
same time. All three installations have been activated well within the
graces of Microsoft's Activation policies.

After 120 days Microsoft clears the activation database, making it possible
to install and activate on another machine without difficulty -- it'll
activate right over the web.

Less than 120 days, you are provided a toll-free phone number to call and
explain your circumstances. In my most recent case, I had purchased a
notebook system with a 2.2 GHz P4M chip and was very unhappy about the
battery life and the heat the system generated. After 60 days, I replaced
the original XP Home installation on it and sold it on eBay.
Simultaneously, I purchased a Centrino-based system and clean installed the
same copy of XP Pro. I called Microsoft, explained the circumstances and
exchanged a series of activation codes with the operator. Five minutes
later the same copy of XP Pro was activated on the new machine.

OEM Editions of XP are generally married to the hardware they are originally
installed upon. Retail Editions may only be installed on one system at a
time according to the End User License Agreement, but may be transferred at
any time to a completely different system - provided they only exist on one
system at any given time.

Jef

 

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On 31 Aug 2004 in comp.sys.laptops, David DeCristoforo wrote:

> Well, it's mostly because my wife is an idiot when it comes to
> computers (no offense,Hon) and I am her "tech support". She is very
> comfortable with W2K and the idea of changing even the desktop color
> sends the poor dear into a fit. So I am mostly concerned with having
> the new computer work EXACTLY like what she is used to. It's either
> that or spend half my life on the phone!

Have her take a look at the Macs. Nice user interface, easy to use...
My wife is also not all that tech-oriented, and she likes the Mac. I'm
contemplating getting an iBook for her.

Drifting off-topic: I just looked into the apple online store - the iMac
G5 is a great looking machine:

http/www.apple.com/imac/

--
Joe Makowiec
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>Have her take a look at the Macs.

Well this would work OK for me...I work on Macs all day. But it kind
of defeats the idea of my old lady not having to learn a new system
which was my whole point in the first place.

DD


"It's easy when you know how..."
Johnny Shines

 

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David,

For retail copies, the MS database is erased after 120 days (4 months).
The intent, for retail copies, is to keep you from installing on more
than one machine AT ONE TIME. They do allow you to move it. If you
move it to another machine less than 4 months after it's installation,
you may have to call them and beg.

For OEM copies, that is NOT their intent, but the actual implementation
of the policy for OEM copies isn't clear. The situation for OEM copies
is kind of a mess, since there is no definition of what constitutes "the
computer". It also not clear if the database is cleared after 120 days
for OEM copies or not.


David DeCristoforo wrote:
>>Should you buy a retail edition of XP as opposed to OEM, I think you can
>>transfer it from PC to PC with no problem.
>
>
> NOT! Once you activate the OS, it is linked to a "fingerprint" of the
> computer on which it is installed. If it was as you say, there would
> be no issue. The whole point of activation is to prevent you from
> installing the OS on more than one machine.
>
> DD
> "It's easy when you know how..."
> Johnny Shines

 

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you can tweak XP in 3 places to make it LOOK almost exactly like W2K. you
might be able to do that and her not notice.


<William P.N. Smith> wrote in message
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> David DeCristoforo <david@privacy.net> wrote:
> >I need to get a notebook computer for my wife. She is very comfortable
> >with W2K (as am I) but all of the laptops seem to ship with XP.
>
> If you goto the Dell WWWebsite and follow the "Small business" track
> you can configure many laptops with Win2K, my Latitude D600 came with
> 2K and an upgrade certificate for XP.
>
> However, most of my clients have XP, and there are some significant
> improvements, so after tweaking a bit and getting used to the
> differences (some of which are just different for the sake of being
> different), I'm coming to "not hate" XP. The system restore points
> have saved my bacon more than once, and viewing photos as thumbnails
> in the OS is nice. Just a thought. Get Pro rather than Home,
> though...
>

 

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On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 15:23:40 -0400, Barry Watzman wrote
(in article <4134D0A8.8070107@neo.rr.com>):

> Subject: Re: New Laptop / W2K
> From: Barry Watzman <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com>
> Date: Yesterday 3:23 PM
> Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
>
> No, you may have gotten what you wanted -- e.g. 2000 instead of XP --,
> but the end result was that you lost. And the sad part is that since
> you have not used XP, you don't even know it.

I love how some folks get upset when someone else has the audacity to want
something different than they think best.

<sigh>

 

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Hello David,

I am actually go through the process at the moment with an IBM thinkpad. IBM
has made it quite easy.
First thing to do is create the recovery CDs(about 6 or 7 CDs worth)

1. install Windows 2k without reformatting
2. use the sw_installer program the comes with the laptop. You can also
download it from the IBM website
This program searches two locations on the drive(drivers, and
IBMtools) for drivers and utilities to install

and that seems to be about it.

If you decide that you want to reformat the drive, then make a copy of the
drivers and IBMtools directory onto a CD and use this.

cheers

rob


"David DeCristoforo" <david@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> I need to get a notebook computer for my wife. She is very comfortable
> with W2K (as am I) but all of the laptops seem to ship with XP. I have
> never bought a name brand PC so I have always installed my own OS and
> drivers. My question is, what kind of problems am I going to have
> installing W2K on a laptop (an HP, Sony or ?) that already has XP
> installed? Will I be able to "extract" the hardware drivers from the
> bundled software that ships with the computer? Or would I be better
> off to by a "non name brand" computer from an independent shop. These
> computers seem to be more expensive than buying a "preconfigured" name
> brand computer but it might be worth the extra dough if I can avoid a
> lot of issues.
> Thanx
> DD
> PS Sorry if this is a redundant question....I am new to this group.
> "It's easy when you know how..."
> Johnny Shines

 

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