Newzbin2 Threatens to Nuke BT's Filters if Blocked

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mstngs351

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"filters were created for real crime not for downloading things that may or may not be legal" lol there's no question. It's being blocked for illegal content. Also don't go thinking they are doing just to stick it to the man. They are doing it to make money from others work. Hey lulsec, wanna do something useful? Take down Newzbin2 for giving reasonable users a bad name.
 

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BT seems, for once, quite innocent in this. Hopefully the members of Newzbin2 will actually be more annoyed by the threatened breaking of BT's filter than by its application - Newzbin2 would be doing something to help sex offenders in the name of its members, not the best piece of marketing around.

From the way the article is written it sounds like the members pay for membership - if that's right then they're not the brightest sparks about it seems. If not then as smt1185 said, go for the advertisers.

If some hacking group wanted to look like the good guys, Newzbin2 seems to be an excellent bad guy target. Stripping ill-gotten cash from them and giving it to charities that help those affected by the illegal things that BT's filter is meant to inhibit; who wouldn't like that?
 

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The older I get, the less I'm prepared to put up with Hollywood's contemporary media. It's just plain crap. American's, who can you stand this garbage? It's mind-numbing mush..films, situation comedies, crime drama (which there is a lot), and news. It's like the same mind-set is behind every film regardless of the script, and you can see straight through the propaganda just as we can in the UK.

This all leads up to the question: where is Hollywood going to be in a few years? I don't think piracy will kill it - I think it's killing itself. The corporations control the show, just as they control whole economies, whole governments. It makes me piss my pants laughing when I read about corporations calling OTHER people the bad guys, too. They control to an incredibly large extent, what we see, what we hear. They aim to influence our way of thinking even if it means changing our 'laws of the land'.

Some of these people should look in the mirror when they talk about criminals. These are some of the worst elements of capitalism and free market manipulation you can find on the face of the planet. And if they think British people are going to get even more deeper in debt just to pay over the odds in order to watch west coast crap, they thought wrong. They're already drowning in debt just like their American cousins over the pond..funny isn't it; do you see outrage over the way the Federal Reserve system is being run? Do you see these corporations outraged at soaring immigration problem coming up from Mexico? Of course not - you see them profiting from it, like they always have. Time to point the finger at someone else again..those big bad meanie terrorists who speak out against governments, the one's downloading child porn off the Internet using torrents blah bloody blah. Pot and kettle if you ask me.
 
[citation][nom]smartroad[/nom]Why don't any of these muppets learn? Look into the reason why people pirate. You will most likely find responses as "DVD/BluRay's are too expensive" (you can lower the price by ditching the 'extras' and just put the god damn movie on it, thats all many people really want), "I want to play it on any of my devices without messing about with DRM" (sell without DRM! People are getting around it anyway), "I can't get it in XYZ country as it isn't sold there", as someone else stated just sell it online at a reasonable cost and let people download it (SD/HD whatever the users chooses) and get rid of these artificial boundaries that say you can only play this DVD in XYZ country, common its not called the "Global Village" for nothing!![/citation]

i agree wholeheartedly that movies cost too much, are region specific, might not be available and are locked down with drm. however, pirating is not the solution. if a movie is expensive then don't buy it until the price drops, loss of sales will put up a red flag and the situation may improve. however, by stealing the movies instead companies get defensive and start tacking on more and more draconian drm to try and fix the issue. it all comes down to a simple question: if people dont want to pay for something, what gives people the right to just take it?

being able to buy and download all movies online (for cheaper) is a nice concept but it is almost guaranteed to have drm in some form. why? because the public (in general) is untrustworthy. i wouldnt be suprised to see piracy double or triple within a year if this type of service came to be without some way of locking down the content. the easier you make it for people to steal, the more they will.

 

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[citation][nom]NuclearShadow[/nom]You know what really angers me about this, something that really grinds my god damn gears?The attention it gets. The god damn attention it gets. Piracy.... the news articles, the anti-piracy agencies, law enforcement is getting involved, the courts, hell even the governments of the world. You would think that piracy is the worst crime one could commit on the internet.While something much more severe gets little to no attention. Just look as child endangerment and child pornography. For god damn sakes people children are being exploited and raped, the rape recorded and shared over the internet. Piracy has gotten the attention of the news media, anti piracy groups have formed, armies of lawyers, millions of dollars being spent,law enforcement gets diverted now to get involves, courts have endless cases they handle, the governments around the globe now pass laws involving it. All this god damn attention on piracy. Do you see any real issues like those involving the very lives of children getting nearly this much attention?What the hell have we become?[/citation]

The very sad truth of the matter is that their is no money to be made or reclaimed by preventing child pornography. That is why there is no army of lawyers, public attention(other then when somebody is arrested for it), etc, etc. That is not to say that their are not groups, governments, etc setup to stop the production and distribution of it and for their work I applaud them.
 

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[citation][nom]NuclearShadow[/nom]You know what really angers me about this, something that really grinds my god damn gears?The attention it gets. The god damn attention it gets. Piracy.... the news articles, the anti-piracy agencies, law enforcement is getting involved, the courts, hell even the governments of the world. You would think that piracy is the worst crime one could commit on the internet.While something much more severe gets little to no attention. Just look as child endangerment and child pornography. For god damn sakes people children are being exploited and raped, the rape recorded and shared over the internet. Piracy has gotten the attention of the news media, anti piracy groups have formed, armies of lawyers, millions of dollars being spent,law enforcement gets diverted now to get involves, courts have endless cases they handle, the governments around the globe now pass laws involving it. All this god damn attention on piracy. Do you see any real issues like those involving the very lives of children getting nearly this much attention?What the hell have we become?[/citation]

Just the news hinting that they care more about that golden fountain in the front lobby and their $100 dollar bill toilet paper over a nine year old getting molested on the streets.
 

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When the Newzbin2 Owners say they will break the filter I love the way anyone who has no technical knowledge immediately jumps to the wrong conclusion and presumes that means they are going to attack BT.. Far from it, if you think about it logically how are they going to stop users from going to the Newzbin2 site? Right they'll block the IP address, how do you then bypass an IP address block out set by your search provider? You use a Proxy.. Clap-Clap-Clap! Clever boy.. So if they intend to stop you from visiting one site, then how do they intend to stop you from accessing any other part of the Internet that you can define a path to and from? BT are idiots for thinking it can be done, just like courts are idiots if they think they can shut down the pirate bay.. They where ordered, ORDERED last year to cease and desist.. But they're still up and going strong for the Lulz.. "Ah yeh scurvy sea-dog yar!"
 

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Americans can't watch BBC iPlayer in the US and the UK can't watch comedy central in the US.. Or can they? I wonder what happens if you proxy through an anonymous proxy server in the US, can you suddenly watch everything comedy central has to offer!? Then what happens if a US citizen anonymously proxies through a proxy based in the UK, can they suddenly watch BBC iPlayer... A perfect example of two television networks flexing there muscle and succeeding in doing nothing but causing a minor inconvenience for the anonymous hackers who run and control the worlds Internet from there couch whilst eating potato chips!
 
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