Obama Admin Backing New Six Strikes ISP Policy

[JD13]

He has to protect the ones who paid for his campaign.... Hollywood, Oprah....

 

[Hellbound]

Very interesting.. People who tend to vote for Obama normally want something for nothing... Hes just going to piss off his voters.

 

[DjEaZy]

... how this is not invading privacy, when they know what you are downloading?

 

[mrmez]

[citation][nom]jimmysmitty[/nom]It really is a invasion of privacy. No on should know what you do on the web that you pay for., especially companies that rip you off at every corner.[/citation]

Ok, so I'm going to rape small children in the comfort and privacy of my own home. It's ok though, don't invade my privacy. The west also operates as a free market economy. Sell anything you like at any price. Its your choice if you buy it. Nobody is forcing you. Don't like it? Fk off to Communist-ville where you don't have a choice, i bet you will have something to bitch about then.
And don't tell me you aren't hurting anyone by pirating. It's stealing, it's immoral and illegal. It's one thing to do it, but don't bitch and moan when they try prevent you from being a thief.


Anyway...
Government and big business in bed together really gets me worried about future measures they could implement. After this it's just a few small steps to allow gov't agencies to legally monitor your internet traffic without due cause or warrant, next thing the RIAA et al is running these agencies, and you can bet they will be seeking maximum compensation for every single infraction... since they now have irrefutable evidence.

To be honest, this system does seem much better than going after random individuals for hundreds of thousands of dollars.

 

[Guest]

You guys are missing the point. It IS the job of government to enforce the law and taking another person's property without compensation IS illegal. Pretty it up and paint it however you want but it IS stealing and stealing IS illegal.

 

[ct001]

“The ISPs want to cooperate with Hollywood because the carriers recognize that their own growth depends in part on bundled content strategies,” said Eric Garland of BigChampagne, which tracks online media traffic. “They don’t want to be just utilities providing Internet access, but premium content distributors as well.”

Net neutrality be gone, tiered internet here we come.

 

[Guest]

But, I don't *want* "premium bundled content." I never watch television. I don't want U-verse. I don't care about sports. I just want to do my own thing without being part of someone else's business plan.

 

[aftcomet]

It's funny how many people are complaining.

Piracy, you can put it whichever way you like it, in the end it's still theft. If you want content, buy it. If you don't, then don't. If you find it too expensive, don't buy it. You're not meant to have everything in life.

If everyone was a pirate we'd have no content at all as there would be no incentive to create it.

Content creators have every right to protect themselves, and this system is quite generous considering what it was previously where people get sued for millions of dollars.

I'm sorry if you don't agree with this system. It's called a free market economy and it allows us to enjoy many of the "luxuries" other countries don't have. If you don't like, move.

 

[madjimms]

[citation][nom]aftcomet[/nom]It's funny how many people are complaining. Piracy, you can put it whichever way you like it, in the end it's still theft. If you want content, buy it. If you don't, then don't. If you find it too expensive, don't buy it. You're not meant to have everything in life.If everyone was a pirate we'd have no content at all as there would be no incentive to create it. Content creators have every right to protect themselves, and this system is quite generous considering what it was previously where people get sued for millions of dollars. I'm sorry if you don't agree with this system. It's called a free market economy and it allows us to enjoy many of the "luxuries" other countries don't have. If you don't like, move.[/citation]

DUPLICATING something is not "taking" it, its simply making two items. If I don't pirate the game OR buy it, they get nothing ANYWAY! So its like a big demo, if I like the game I simply buy it.

 

[LORD_ORION]

Innocent until proven guilty.

The US constitution is no longer sacred... you might even be a twit to suggest it is a guideline to consult when passing laws.

Not even the ACLU can save you from this, they're only into suing for a profit when the constitution is breached.

 

[fyasko]

just netflix and burn the dvd. it's 10$ a month and you have a substantial dvd collection in a few months.

 

[LORD_ORION]

[citation][nom]aftcomet[/nom]It's funny how many people are complaining. Piracy, you can put it whichever way you like it, in the end it's still theft. If you want content, buy it. If you don't, then don't. If you find it too expensive, don't buy it. You're not meant to have everything in life.If everyone was a pirate we'd have no content at all as there would be no incentive to create it. Content creators have every right to protect themselves, and this system is quite generous considering what it was previously where people get sued for millions of dollars. I'm sorry if you don't agree with this system. It's called a free market economy and it allows us to enjoy many of the "luxuries" other countries don't have. If you don't like, move.[/citation]

It's more complicated than that. Having the mentality of "it's the hidden cost of business" and then passing the cost onto consumers is loathsome enough. But now the likes of RIAA are bamboozling the tax payers into supporting their shoddy business models with illegal penalization practices.

Perhaps if Walmart started lobbying for the tax payers to cover the cost of store theft you might be less sympathetic? Or perhaps if you were suddenly responsible for stolen identity debts without any recourse because of shoddy corporate practices and lobbying you might have a change of heart?

 

[ct001]

[citation][nom]aftcomet[/nom]It's funny how many people are complaining. Piracy, you can put it whichever way you like it, in the end it's still theft. If you want content, buy it. If you don't, then don't. If you find it too expensive, don't buy it. You're not meant to have everything in life.If everyone was a pirate we'd have no content at all as there would be no incentive to create it. Content creators have every right to protect themselves, and this system is quite generous considering what it was previously where people get sued for millions of dollars. I'm sorry if you don't agree with this system. It's called a free market economy and it allows us to enjoy many of the "luxuries" other countries don't have. If you don't like, move.[/citation]

Except this affects those of us who don't pirate. They're throwing the baby out with the bath water all in the name corporate greed.

 

[Archean]

It is interesting to see how many simply give knee jerk reaction, stating benefits of free market etc. totally disregarding the fact that the prevailing system is progressing into a ‘coporatocracy’. Which has effectively started to dictate issues on its own terms, no matter which party controls WDC.

I don't disagree with the fact that piracy is theft, but the problem's root lies much deeper. I always have a bone of contention with pricing structures in so called 'free market' (read capitalism), generally sellers are free to set prices even if the profit margins are ridiculous to put it mildly, totally disregarding social factors as well. Have these proponents of 'un-checked' free market ever bothered to analyze how this system has been shifting wealth from almost 99% of the population to remaining 1% creating huge number of deprived? Anyway it is not the platform and place for such in depth debate, so back to topic.

Obama (and for that matter every president since Reagan) has been pushed up the ladder by a system which benefits from and protects the big business interests, putting aside people's interest (unless they too would benefit these same people) avoiding having to take time to understand factors which lead people to such behavior and fixing them.

 

[shin0bi272]

internet successfully regulated... next step suing the makers of copy machines for the ability to copy papers that may have intellectual property on them. Where's my gun so I can blow my brains out? I dont want to live in a country where everyone and their government is lawsuit happy for fun and profit.

 

[shin0bi272]

[citation][nom]Archean[/nom]It is interesting to see how many simply give knee jerk reaction, stating benefits of free market etc. totally disregarding the fact that the prevailing system is progressing into a ‘coporatocracy’. Which has effectively started to dictate issues on its own terms, no matter which party controls WDC.I don't disagree with the fact that piracy is theft, but the problem's root lies much deeper. I always have a bone of contention with pricing structures in so called 'free market' (read capitalism), generally sellers are free to set prices even if the profit margins are ridiculous to put it mildly, totally disregarding social factors as well. Have these proponents of 'un-checked' free market ever bothered to analyze how this system has been shifting wealth from almost 99% of the population to remaining 1% creating huge number of deprived? Anyway it is not the platform and place for such in depth debate, so back to topic. Obama (and for that matter every president since Reagan) has been pushed up the ladder by a system which benefits from and protects the big business interests, putting aside people's interest (unless they too would benefit these same people) avoiding having to take time to understand factors which lead people to such behavior and fixing them.[/citation]
You need to put your Alinsky books down for a while you are starting to loose touch with reality

 

[pocketdrummer]

[citation][nom]hotsacoman[/nom]Once ISP's start losing subscribers due to this new legislation, they'll probably back off from it.[/citation]

Assuming you have the choice to go to another ISP that isn't 1/6th the speed of your current ISP... like in my area...

 

[Archean]

[citation][nom]shin0bi272[/nom]You need to put your Alinsky books down for a while you are starting to loose touch with reality[/citation]

Unfortunately having been continuously told 'what is good for you' rather then determining what actually is the right thing at your own, it is rather easy to loose perspective. Tragedy is, as this doesn't happen enough in the real world, hence, the sheep mentality.

 

[Burodsx]

Yep, I'm definitely voting against this guy in the upcoming election...

 

[reggieray]

Impeach the Kenyan, then deport him.