Opera Shows Apple a Better iPhone Web Browser

[pocketdrummer]

Yay..... what about flash? >:-|

 

[kartu]

Opera is NOT based on Webkit.

 

[malcarada]

Yeah, Opera has its own rendering engine called "Presto", it is not based on Webkit.

 

[climber]

It's likely that Apple and the ISP's (the big cable companies and telecos) have an understanding to keep data usage up, not down, so it's unlikely to that a browser that compresses up to 90% server side and reduces your potential bandwidth consumption is going to fly with Apple. The telecos don't want you to lower your bandwidth, they just want to reap the profits from overages.

 

[xizel]

will this be free?

 

[belardo]

Yes it will, it would improve the internet experience. The phone part is pretty much opinion.

Funny thou, I've seen many black berry, Windows Mobile, Basic-Phone users switch to iPhone and love it.

 

[tstebbens]

I've been using Opera Mobile on my Polaris for ages. It's a really good browser. The only problem I've had is with a few sites with lots of JavaScript where it runs like a dog and occassionally crashes.

[citation][nom]Smochina[/nom]So all my traffic is routed through Opera servers? No thanks,[/citation]

You can turn that feature off.

 

[slaphappy]

Keep in mind your speed is dependent on opera's servers to retransmit the compressed data back to you via proxy. I've used opera on my blackberry for awhile and sometimes using the internet browser is faster b/c the opera servers are overloaded, and even the compressed pages come in slower than non-compressed. Plus theres the security risk & uncomfortable feeling of having all your traffic routed through opera's servers.

I'll definitely give this a try on my iphone if it's free or shows up on cydia, but you gotta admit the safari browser is pretty damn good. I'm sure apple will deny this app and claim they did so to "prevent customer confusion"

 

[Marcus Yam]

[citation][nom]kartu[/nom]Opera is NOT based on Webkit.[/citation]
You misunderstood. I said that competing browsers from Android and Palm were based on Webkit. I did NOT say that Opera Mini was connected to Webkit in any fashion other than it competes with the once-leading Safari.

 

[kencolestud69]

The Speed Dial on Opera mini kind of reminded me of why I wanted to sell my iPhone and get a Nokia N900 before it was released.

 

[ukcal]

To clarify most things in one post, hopefully:
Yes, Opera Mini is free, as is the other mobile browser from Opera, Opera Mobile.
Neither support Flash, though typically that is not too much of a problem, considering there are specific Youtube applications for devices anyway and other Flash content on websites is advertising. I will admit there are some sites where Flash is used for useful purposes and the lack of support is annoying, but don't forget mobile browsers are used in addition to a desktop browser, not instead of.
Finally, the differences between Opera Mini and Mobile. The most obvious is that Opera Mini runs on just about any phone, whereas Mobile does not and has a limited phone support. This is because of the major difference between them; Opera Mini sends everything to and from the Opera servers (and having used Mini for many months, it does speed up a slow internet connection and is not at all problematic) and so requires less resources on the host mobile. Opera Mobile instead does all the processing on the mobile, but like the desktop browser, Opera Turbo can be enabled.
Hope that clears a few things up.
/sent using Opera Mobile from a Nokia E63

 

[itadakimasu]

hmmmm... does it support hulu and flash?

"coming soon to the iphone app store" i hope so. I'll give it a try.

 

[tayb]

[citation][nom]climber[/nom]It's likely that Apple and the ISP's (the big cable companies and telecos) have an understanding to keep data usage up, not down, so it's unlikely to that a browser that compresses up to 90% server side and reduces your potential bandwidth consumption is going to fly with Apple. The telecos don't want you to lower your bandwidth, they just want to reap the profits from overages.[/citation]

I seriously doubt that considering AT&T requires most smartphone customers to purchase unlimited data plans and is constantly bitching about how much data iPhone users use.

 

[jakalwarrior]

About the same thing we've been using on our windows mobile and other phones for a while now Opera mobile even has versions with REAL flash support. Watching youtube vids right on the page.

Nothing gets any attention till its on the iPhone though... I'ts free on windows mobile and the jave app is free. Probably won't be for iPhone though. If apple is going to have another company take over the iphones browser they are darn sure going to want to make some money from taking a cut.

 

[Honis]

[citation][nom]polly the parrot[/nom]Not like Apple would actually approve it and get competition towards Safari. Apple'll say that it had pr0n on it or something.[/citation]
Actually they don't even need to do that. They have denied plenty of apps that step on the toes of Apple provided software. I don't even know why opera even tried making an official release. Release it to the homebrew community and move on to other platforms.

 

[boredreader]

I say Apple is going to reject it and say that Opera Mini offers a service that is too similar to what Apple already offers.

 

[Syndil]

Once again, Opera FTW.

 

[danimal_the_animal]

no point in doing this because of no flash support.

apple wont allow flash on safari so why would they allow it on opera....

really great idea except apple ruins everything.

 

[pojih]

[citation][nom]Belardo[/nom]Okay, just watched the video...Cool, I want it too... if I had an iphone or smart-phone that could use the Opera Mini browser Opera rocks kind of like that too on Windows (most likely the same on Mac). You can pull tabs off (into their own window) as well as bring them back.[/citation]

You can also pull tabs off of chrome... and put them back

 

[long2know]

Let's not forget that Opera Mini 5 has been available for other platforms for quite a while. I would say that not only does the iPhone version beat Safari, but it shows that OTHER platforms running Opera Mini beat the iPhone