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>1983-84, and the market came to its knees. Atari was then sold to Jack
>Tramiel in the early-mid nineties.

Try July 1984. I assume this was a typo.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari

>Anybody that claims Atari is alive and well is misguided or
>misinformed. It's nice to see the name out there, but it exists for

Sheesh. I don't think anyone ever claimed this, but again, why is this
Atari not valid, but the Tramiel Atari was valid?

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"James Robert Leek" <jrleek@soda.csua.berkeley.edu> wrote in message
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> >1983-84, and the market came to its knees. Atari was then sold to Jack
> >Tramiel in the early-mid nineties.
>
> Try July 1984. I assume this was a typo.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari
>
> >Anybody that claims Atari is alive and well is misguided or
> >misinformed. It's nice to see the name out there, but it exists for
>
> Sheesh. I don't think anyone ever claimed this, but again, why is this
> Atari not valid, but the Tramiel Atari was valid?

Good point. I've always considered the ST nothing but Atari, despite the
flipflop origin. Any of the more recent licensees frankly are just as much
Atari as the Blue Sky Rangers are Intellivision. We've even seen new games,
but not every game can be Adventure.
Why does anyone consider JTS as being cursed too? They made a profit. Hardly
the kind of curse that sends one quaking in their boots.
 
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JTS is cursed with their own anonymity. Who heard of them prior to
their acquisition of Atari, and who's heard of them since? It was a
shrewd move to pick up a label like they did and flip it for a quick
profit. That's just good business.
I'd say the Tramiel stewardship of Atari in its prime state of decline
deserves more credibility than the current ownership simply because
they continued to fund intellectual property. Patents, code, and
consoles were all created. The company was still headquartered in
California, in some of the same buildings in Milpitas as in the hey-day.
 
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In article <1119944515.540363.267080@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
VectorGen <istolewhitesands@yahoo.com> wrote:
>JTS is cursed with their own anonymity. Who heard of them prior to
>their acquisition of Atari, and who's heard of them since? It was a
>shrewd move to pick up a label like they did and flip it for a quick
>profit. That's just good business.

Ummm, not to meantion they got the $50 million Atari had in the bank.
The reason no one has heard of JTS since is because they went bankrupt.
JTS manufactured Harddrives, a very tough business. The Atari deal was
more of a merger than anything else. Jack Tramiel wanted to get out of the
videogame business and get into a business where he could sell blackboxs
and compete solely on price. That sure describes hard drives, but JTS
went under in 1998. Here's a little more info:

"JTS were a fairly recent entrant into the hard drive market. Founded in
1994 by ex-Seagate, Conner and IBM workers and based in the USA, they did
their manufacturing in India. JTS desktop drives were fully sealed units,
with slightly smaller platters than usual, and were designed for the
entry-level market. They also made 3 inch notebook drives. Despite some
surprisingly well-performed products, they closed up in 1998."

>I'd say the Tramiel stewardship of Atari in its prime state of decline
>deserves more credibility than the current ownership simply because
>they continued to fund intellectual property. Patents, code, and
>consoles were all created. The company was still headquartered in
>California, in some of the same buildings in Milpitas as in the hey-day.

I'll agree that one primary difference between Tramiel Atari and
Infogrames Atari is that the Tramiels produced hardware. I think you'd be
hard pressed to come up with evidence that Infogrames Atari doesn't
produce code though.

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